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Re: The GT-R - Don't get it twisted... [paisan] by tonycarl
Jan 27, 2008 (3:07 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Jan 27, 2008 2:02 pm)

I know the transmissions aren't the same. I used to work for Swift Engineering. They're still hand built : )
 
It's hard to find a balance between a road car and a computer-controlled drive by wire machine. The trick is for a car manufacturer to be able to provide the best technology at the lowest price to the consumer.
 
Are you a Skyline fan?
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Re: The GT-R - Don't get it twisted... [tonycarl] by paisan
Jan 27, 2008 (3:32 pm)
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Replying to: tonycarl (Jan 27, 2008 3:07 pm)

I am an AWD fan. So by default I'll like the Skyline/GTR. I liked the old skylines yup.
 
So the new GTR has a hand built trans. Good luck when it comes time to repair that baby....
 
-mike
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Re: The GT-R - Don't get it twisted... [paisan] by qbrozen
Jan 28, 2008 (8:28 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Jan 27, 2008 8:23 am)

$70k for an "exotic" car with an automatic transmission?
 
You know as well as I do that there are cars costing 4 times that (and more) that can only be had with a so-called "automatic" transmission.
 
Do those trannies cost more than that in the GTR? Sure. Are they still automatics by some definitions? Yes.
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Re: The GT-R - Don't get it twisted... [qbrozen] by paisan
Jan 28, 2008 (6:22 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Jan 28, 2008 8:28 am)

You know as well as I do that there are cars costing 4 times that (and more) that can only be had with a so-called "automatic" transmission.
  
Do those trannies cost more than that in the GTR? Sure. Are they still automatics by some definitions? Yes.

 
It doesn't make it right though!
 
That's the beauty of the internet, we can have crazy whacked out opinions!
 
-mike
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Re: The GT-R - Don't get it twisted... [paisan] by tonycarl
Jan 29, 2008 (12:17 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Jan 28, 2008 6:22 pm)

Well, I'm all for what's best for the consumer. Automatics and SMG's will always cost more to make and manufacture. It's Nissans call to configure the car this way for mostly performance reasons. Sure, everything has it's pros and cons.
 
Swift Engineering sold hand-built limited production Formula Atlantic gearboxes for around $20k. Most of the parts required to build it were supplied by Hewland, Quaife, etc. You're right about the possiblity of not being able to go down to Kragen or Autozone to get GT-R transmission parts. How much Infinity will charge for labor I assume would be the same hourly rate they would charge on any other Infinity. Maybe the GT-R will have a lifetime warranty on their transmissions?
 
I don't know very much about the transmission going into the GT-R, but I think they also might have chose it for it's ability to handle the powerband in an AWD configuration. It's also a 7 speed so it has more options to choose different gear ratios for race circuit applications.
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Re: The GT-R - Don't get it twisted... [tonycarl] by paisan
Jan 29, 2008 (4:17 pm)
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Replying to: tonycarl (Jan 29, 2008 12:17 pm)

You still won't get the connected feeling of a manual, no matter what you tell me, you aren't gonna convince me that it's a good thing. This coming from someone who has raced automatics and manuals in AWD cars on road courses.
 
-mike
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GTR blog and photos by blkbr0tha
Jan 31, 2008 (1:49 pm)
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Just saw this and thought I would share.. its kind of old- but hey the pics speak for themselves!! Enjoy
 
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-nissan-gt-r-live-reveal/454772/
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GTR OVER PRICED by skarie
Jan 31, 2008 (7:33 pm)
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Dealer markups to push GT-R pricing as high as $129,000.
 
Although the Nissan GT-R will sticker for about $69,000 when it goes on sale in the U.S. later this year, prospective buyers will be hard pressed to find any Nissan dealers to offer the supercar at that price. The combination of the GT-R's limited availability and Nissan's lack of dealer pricing control could see some of the turbocharged coupes going for as high as $129,000 — nearly double the car's MSRP.
 
Exhaustnote.com called on 15 Nissan dealers through the United States and found that the GT-R will command at least $20,000 over its window sticker. Several dealers even said they were going to handle GT-R sales like an auction, pitting prospective buyers against one another.
 
One dealership in Carson, California said they would markup the GT-R by about $50,000 — joking the markup would be about the same as a new Nissan 350Z and Sentra.
 
The highest markup found was $60,000, bringing the GT-R's out-the-door price to a staggering $129,000.
 
The huge markups are due to extremely limited availability of Nissan's latest supercar — only 1,500 GT-Rs will be available in the U.S. this year. Most dealerships will only get 2 or 3 cars, but most have waiting lists at least 40 people deep.
 
While Nissan has counseled its dealers on markups — one of the GT-R's greatest assets was supposed to be amazing performance at a value price — the Japanese automaker has no control over how much dealers will actually charge.
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going back to the mid-engine vs. front engine thing... by thenebean
Feb 12, 2008 (12:05 pm)
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i think it was pnc4 that said that the GT-R is a front engine vehicle. If i recall correctly, the engine is over or behind the front axle, not in front of it. I think at that point, it would be considered a front mid-engine vehicle. Nissan also counters the engine weight by putting the transmission in the rear of the vehicle as well, helping keep the weight balanced. I would think that between that, and the AWD, that the car handles just fine - not twitchy like pnc4 suggested.
 
and if you can believe what you read in these car mags, many drivers have stated that they feel comfortable and confident pushing the GT-R to its limits, far more so than the 911 or any other exotic sportscar they've driven before...
 
something to be said for that i think....
 
-thene
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Re: going back to the mid-engine vs. front engine thing... [thenebean] by madmanmoo
Feb 12, 2008 (12:27 pm)
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Replying to: thenebean (Feb 12, 2008 12:05 pm)


 
Looks like the long arm of the law came sweeping through here.
 
Also looks like you've got that all correct, thene. Based on what I've read as well, all you said is accurate. The point has been brought up a number of times, but people are voicing concern over the difference in weight between the Turbo and GT-R. I believe that the GT-R is 300lbs heavier. Thought pattern is that will make the vehicle seem less manageable.
 
/shrug
 
-moo

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