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Re: The GT-R - Don't get it twisted... [tonycarl] by paisan
Jan 27, 2008 (8:23 am)
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Replying to: tonycarl (Jan 27, 2008 2:36 am)

$70k for an "exotic" car with an automatic transmission? Seems a bit high for a car w/o a MT. I know I know, it's not an automatic, i've heard that arguement over and over. Unless there is a physical connection between the driver and the gears, it's an automatic, in my book. These DSG style transmissions do not have a physical connection therefore the feel is different than a traditional MT.
 
-mike
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Re: The GT-R - Don't get it twisted... [paisan] by tonycarl
Jan 27, 2008 (1:55 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Jan 27, 2008 8:23 am)

I use the words supercar and exotic interchangeably sometimes. These days, technology has blurred the lines between what is purely one thing from another. As for transmissions, F1 has or did have the automatic 7 speeds. They're handle-built just like the one going into the GT-R. They make for a faster car.
 
An all-wheel drive car doesn't feel like a rear-wheel drive car. So I think it's a matter of preference when it comes to transmission. How do you know Nissan isn't coming out with a 6 speed manual for the GT-R in the next year or so?
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Re: The GT-R - Don't get it twisted... [tonycarl] by paisan
Jan 27, 2008 (2:02 pm)
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Replying to: tonycarl (Jan 27, 2008 1:55 pm)

The transmissions that go in F1 are not the same as those going in the GTR, Those transmissions cost >$50-60k, which is 90% of the price of the GTR.
 
As for an MT coming out next year, that would be great, but not likely or they would have launched it at the same time.
 
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Re: The GT-R - Don't get it twisted... [paisan] by tonycarl
Jan 27, 2008 (3:07 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Jan 27, 2008 2:02 pm)

I know the transmissions aren't the same. I used to work for Swift Engineering. They're still hand built : )
 
It's hard to find a balance between a road car and a computer-controlled drive by wire machine. The trick is for a car manufacturer to be able to provide the best technology at the lowest price to the consumer.
 
Are you a Skyline fan?
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Re: The GT-R - Don't get it twisted... [tonycarl] by paisan
Jan 27, 2008 (3:32 pm)
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Replying to: tonycarl (Jan 27, 2008 3:07 pm)

I am an AWD fan. So by default I'll like the Skyline/GTR. I liked the old skylines yup.
 
So the new GTR has a hand built trans. Good luck when it comes time to repair that baby....
 
-mike
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Re: The GT-R - Don't get it twisted... [paisan] by qbrozen
Jan 28, 2008 (8:28 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Jan 27, 2008 8:23 am)

$70k for an "exotic" car with an automatic transmission?
 
You know as well as I do that there are cars costing 4 times that (and more) that can only be had with a so-called "automatic" transmission.
 
Do those trannies cost more than that in the GTR? Sure. Are they still automatics by some definitions? Yes.
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Re: The GT-R - Don't get it twisted... [qbrozen] by paisan
Jan 28, 2008 (6:22 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Jan 28, 2008 8:28 am)

You know as well as I do that there are cars costing 4 times that (and more) that can only be had with a so-called "automatic" transmission.
  
Do those trannies cost more than that in the GTR? Sure. Are they still automatics by some definitions? Yes.

 
It doesn't make it right though!
 
That's the beauty of the internet, we can have crazy whacked out opinions!
 
-mike
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Re: The GT-R - Don't get it twisted... [paisan] by tonycarl
Jan 29, 2008 (12:17 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Jan 28, 2008 6:22 pm)

Well, I'm all for what's best for the consumer. Automatics and SMG's will always cost more to make and manufacture. It's Nissans call to configure the car this way for mostly performance reasons. Sure, everything has it's pros and cons.
 
Swift Engineering sold hand-built limited production Formula Atlantic gearboxes for around $20k. Most of the parts required to build it were supplied by Hewland, Quaife, etc. You're right about the possiblity of not being able to go down to Kragen or Autozone to get GT-R transmission parts. How much Infinity will charge for labor I assume would be the same hourly rate they would charge on any other Infinity. Maybe the GT-R will have a lifetime warranty on their transmissions?
 
I don't know very much about the transmission going into the GT-R, but I think they also might have chose it for it's ability to handle the powerband in an AWD configuration. It's also a 7 speed so it has more options to choose different gear ratios for race circuit applications.
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Re: The GT-R - Don't get it twisted... [tonycarl] by paisan
Jan 29, 2008 (4:17 pm)
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Replying to: tonycarl (Jan 29, 2008 12:17 pm)

You still won't get the connected feeling of a manual, no matter what you tell me, you aren't gonna convince me that it's a good thing. This coming from someone who has raced automatics and manuals in AWD cars on road courses.
 
-mike
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GTR blog and photos by blkbr0tha
Jan 31, 2008 (1:49 pm)
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Just saw this and thought I would share.. its kind of old- but hey the pics speak for themselves!! Enjoy
 
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-nissan-gt-r-live-reveal/454772/

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