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Relax : Nissan blew them all out of the water, its over . The rest of the field limps to the drawing board, everyone is in awe, all time record breaking nurimburg lap time was set.!
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Well i don't even see why people are comparing the STI and the Evo because they aren't even close to the GTR's level of performance. It surpasses the level of performance posted by the 911 turbo (see Edmund's road test, and Edmunds is a third party), while being about half the price. They said they recorded a 3.3 second 0-60....are you kidding me?!?!?!? Show me one car for under $300K that has that kind of acceleration and grip. On top of that, it out handled the 911 turbo in the slalom too. STI what? Evo who? ....nuff said |
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| When is the higher performance SpecV version coming out? 2010 ? I heard it will be lighter and probably pack 550 to 600 HP. That is insane. | |
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The GTR most likely packs more than the advertised HP. In fact, the 473 Hp rating is at the wheels rating. So at the crank HP is estimated to be 550. That would explain the 0 to 60 time of 3.3 seconds for a relatively heavy car with AWD http://www.motorauthority.com/news/supercars/nissan-gt-r-dyno-475hp-at-the-hubs/- A few days ago we were talking about Nissan wanting to get the GT-R to an SAE-certified 480hp so it would match the Porsche 911 Turbo, one of its chief rivals. It looks like that should be an easy feat if the dyno numbers coming out of Japan today are solid - and it looks like they are. According to testing done on a Dynapack dynamometer, the new GT-R pumps 482PS (475hp) to all four hubs, with torque peaking at 580Nm (428lb-ft) at the hubs. Assuming parasitic drivetrain losses around 15% - although the loss could be even larger given the GT-R’s all-wheel drive platform - that would put power at the crank around 550hp and 495lb-ft of torque - absolutely insane numbers for a 3.8L engine, twin-turbo or not. Suspicious? Head on over to NAGTROC, the North American GT-R Owners Club forums, where poster Chuck H has links to photographic evidence of the testing, complete with shots of the dyno screen. While these numbers seem to fit more aptly with the GT-R’s 3800lb curb weight and its scorching ‘Ring times, it still seems odd that a car with a drag coefficient of 0.27 would top out at anything under 200mph with 550hp under the hood. Maybe there’s more to this story than meets the eye. We’ll keep you updated as things unfold. Thanks to Jeff for the tip! |
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the skyline thaat was made with the same production line as the g35 was sick this is gonna be sickker youtube.com/cubanwhite |
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Replying to: paisan (Dec 05, 2007 4:31 am) |
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A couple of years ago when people were importing right-hand drive Skylines to the U.S., what was the total cost of one after making it pass smog and everything else? $50k or so for the car plus another $5k - $10k to make the modifications and ship it over here. Hey if I had the money I might have done it, but it was still a right hand drive. Back then it was a tuner car exclusive to Japan with lots of power that people were willing to pay for and go through the hassle. Basically, I think the stated $70k for the GT-R sounds about right to me and I think you get the picture when it comes to the value you are getting from the brand new GT-R. Launch control, paddle shifters, 7 speed transmission, Brembo brakes, does this sound like an F1 car to anyone? Some people are complaining about the price. Some are mentioning Evo and Sti to weigh cost to power ratios in their head. People, those cars are not in the same class. Rally cars - hint hint. Now, I know some people have addressed examples such as the 1990 NSX's price of $40k at it's release and how it kept edging up toward $100k each year due to either manufacturing costs or slowing sales. I for one liked the old NSX and all it's achievments, but it just didn't have enough horses to compete with exotics. I believe a manufacturer can sell a car such as the GT-R at $70k initally and can either lower or most likely raise that price slightly depending on demand or manufacturing cost. As long as the amount of performance you get matches what you're paying, you shouldn't lose too many customers. Shame on you NSX. I believe Nissan themselves had prior experience with what I call "mis-targeted introductory pricing" when it came to the XTERRA SUV which was first introduced in 2000 (2000 Motortrend SUV of the Year) as a lesser Pathfinder. They wanted to price it in the $17k - $20k range aimed at the Gen-X demographic and the appropriate income. Sort of like Honda markets their Element. What ended up happening was all the active lifestyle 30 somethings with more money to spend were buying them left and right. Nissan's marketing and showrooms picked up on this and started raising the price to the $22k - $26k range without too much hassle. A so-called shift in pricing and demographic is possible, but with the supercar association attached to the GT-R, it seems it will be locked into that category no matter who buys it. On another note, I think "GT-R" sounds better than Skyline. If Nissan is really going for Porsche's spot then I can already see the car magazines with covers titled "911 vs GT-R" or "Viper eats GT-R dust". If you still don't agree, just look at where Toyota is going with their up-coming Supra. A 5.0 liter V8 trying to push towards the 200mph mark. The price for that is currently rumored to be $50k aimed to compete against Corvette, BMW and the GT-R. I hope they do well, but for now I'd rather go with Nissan. I was shocked when they tested the acceleration and handling of the GT-R. I didn't know it was going to be that fast. They brought their A game and those engineers are not messing around with this car. Hopefully the U.S. version will have the same specs. I think you and I know what an over priced car is. It seems like the Skyline is finally here in America and wants to win the "Why pay that much for a exotic?" award. Everyone can judge for themselves whether or not the numbers add up as they start showing up in the streets and tracks this year. Thanks, Tony Carl
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Replying to: tonycarl (Jan 27, 2008 2:36 am) -mike Motorsports and Modifications Host
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