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New to the forums here I just found it while searching for some more info on the new GTR. I must say I am very suprised at how many people that have posted here think the GTR is trash and has no interest in buying one. I have been in the tuner scene for many years, owing the likes of a 99 Acura Integra GSR, 95 Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder, 97 Toyota Supra Turbo, 95 Mitsubishi GT3000 VR4, and a 2003 Impreza WRX. For many years I have wanted to buy a Skyline, preferably R34, and was 3-4 months from having the funds to do so when I heard about a new "skyline" coming out. After all I don't know any tuner's that don't respect the Skyline and it's ability to trash many cars with very little actual tuning. The stories are true this car can push 1000HP with only moderate levels of tuning. Now I don't know a whole lot about the EVO but I have owned an Impreza, and I have never heard of a 1000HP Impreza. Is that even possible? Now granted the Skyline and the GTR are two different cars but I would be suprised if the GTR can't hit 1000HP as well. Given the fact that Nissan knows the Skyline is many tuners dream car and many people are going to want to tune the GTR I would be suprised if Nissan didn't leave enough room under the hood so to speak to allow the tuner culture to do what they want with this car. After hearing about this new car I decided to hold off to see what it would be. The new GTR smokes even the NISMO tuned version of the R34 and is beats the stock version of the R34 hands down. Whether the GTR will be able to out tune so to speak a skyline has yet to be seen obviously What this cars true potential is will not be known until someone buys one and tunes it. Being a long time supporter of the Skyline it was the second most gotta have it car on my list behind the Mclaren F1. Would sell my soul for one of those but that's a different thread. That being said Nissan has sold me on the new GTR. I actually don't want a Skyline anymore. The GTR has replaced it on my list. Even if the car is marked up to $90,000 this is still a great buy as far as I am concened. It's going to cost me close to that to import a Skyline to the US and it's stock performance is far from the GTR's. There are many examples of cars in this price range with similar performace. An 07 Ford Shelby Cobra GT500 was going for $70,000-$80,000 new so it's not like Nissan is out of the ballpark or anything. Heck a used one is going for $60,000+ on autotrader.com Even if Nissan was using some sort of super slick tire for their run, to even be in the neighborhood of a 911 is a fantastic achievement. And even if the car is marked up it is still going to cost less the a 911 which is considered one of the gold standars for performance testing. Also two other things according to http://www.nordschleife.no/ it appears the 911 used slicks on it's timed run so is that argument even relevant? Also according to www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=3&fID=0&tID=10073&bottom=0 the z06 ranks even further behind the the GTR then the 911. Nordschleife is notorious for it's constant elevation changes and turns/chicans etc. If the GTR can post a better time obviously it handle better the a z06. Go to the Nissan website and look up the specs on this car to find out what this thing actually has in it. The price tag is not all about the HP. Nissan has inclulded many new technologies into this car. In my opinion it truely is a model of modern ingenuity. Let me know what you think.
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Replying to: terascque (Dec 04, 2007 10:20 pm) 
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Replying to: terascque (Dec 04, 2007 10:20 pm) The problem I have with the GTR is that it's not going to be a Tuner's Dream Car because at $70K + Dealer Markup, you aren't going to see a lot of them "tuned" at least not in the same way the tuner scene would normally do it. The demographic for a $70k car is not the same as the WRX/Integra/etc. group. -mike
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| Inside Line Throws a Nissan GT-R Party | |
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Relax : Nissan blew them all out of the water, its over . The rest of the field limps to the drawing board, everyone is in awe, all time record breaking nurimburg lap time was set.!
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Well i don't even see why people are comparing the STI and the Evo because they aren't even close to the GTR's level of performance. It surpasses the level of performance posted by the 911 turbo (see Edmund's road test, and Edmunds is a third party), while being about half the price. They said they recorded a 3.3 second 0-60....are you kidding me?!?!?!? Show me one car for under $300K that has that kind of acceleration and grip. On top of that, it out handled the 911 turbo in the slalom too. STI what? Evo who? ....nuff said |
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| When is the higher performance SpecV version coming out? 2010 ? I heard it will be lighter and probably pack 550 to 600 HP. That is insane. | |
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The GTR most likely packs more than the advertised HP. In fact, the 473 Hp rating is at the wheels rating. So at the crank HP is estimated to be 550. That would explain the 0 to 60 time of 3.3 seconds for a relatively heavy car with AWD http://www.motorauthority.com/news/supercars/nissan-gt-r-dyno-475hp-at-the-hubs/- A few days ago we were talking about Nissan wanting to get the GT-R to an SAE-certified 480hp so it would match the Porsche 911 Turbo, one of its chief rivals. It looks like that should be an easy feat if the dyno numbers coming out of Japan today are solid - and it looks like they are. According to testing done on a Dynapack dynamometer, the new GT-R pumps 482PS (475hp) to all four hubs, with torque peaking at 580Nm (428lb-ft) at the hubs. Assuming parasitic drivetrain losses around 15% - although the loss could be even larger given the GT-R’s all-wheel drive platform - that would put power at the crank around 550hp and 495lb-ft of torque - absolutely insane numbers for a 3.8L engine, twin-turbo or not. Suspicious? Head on over to NAGTROC, the North American GT-R Owners Club forums, where poster Chuck H has links to photographic evidence of the testing, complete with shots of the dyno screen. While these numbers seem to fit more aptly with the GT-R’s 3800lb curb weight and its scorching ‘Ring times, it still seems odd that a car with a drag coefficient of 0.27 would top out at anything under 200mph with 550hp under the hood. Maybe there’s more to this story than meets the eye. We’ll keep you updated as things unfold. Thanks to Jeff for the tip! |
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