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$$ PRICE $$ by jmaroun
Nov 20, 2007 (1:41 pm)
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How much do you think this GTR will "REALY" cost?
 
From what I'm reading, Nissan steelerships are drooling and foamming at the mouth at their chance to rip sucker enthusiasts off. If true, it would make the 69k price a gimmick.
 
Joseph
San Diego
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Big Picture by speedntktz
Nov 25, 2007 (1:33 pm)
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There are so many aspects to this car that are not being discussed here, I wonder if most of the people posting drive these cars on XBOX and PS3 rather than their own garage.
 
One aspect that no one has addressed is service. This vehicle is a very complex car with expensive technology bits everywhere. How many of you are going to put out the $70K price plus the $10k - $20 dealer ransom to actually own one. After spending that much how confident will you be to have the tech at the Nissan dealer service your pride and joy. This isn't the Maxima or Sentra they service everyday. You would be hard pressed to find some technology on this car that is similar to the rest of the product line from Nissan.
 
There is more to owning this car than what it's 0-60 time is or how much horsepower it has. I would be curious to know how many people plan to purchase this car for non-street use (racing).
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Re: Big Picture [speedntktz] by paisan
Nov 25, 2007 (2:58 pm)
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Replying to: speedntktz (Nov 25, 2007 1:33 pm)

If you can afford $70k+ for a car, the service is not going to hurt you. Similarly, I own a high performance "cigarette" style boat in a similar price range (new, well over that) and the folks who buy them don't really get hung up on the maintenance side of things or the cost of that. I would imagine that the same would hold true for folks in the financial demographic of the skyline GTR.
 
-mike
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Re: Big Picture [paisan] by speedntktz
Nov 25, 2007 (11:05 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Nov 25, 2007 2:58 pm)

You completely missed the point of the post. Would you trust somebody who bangs on cheap outboard motors everyday to work on you pride and joy? It's not an issue of what the service costs. Buy a BMW and it's free. The issue is more the level of service. This was an issue with many potential buyers of a $100K Volkwagon. They opted for the sister car made by Audi. Honda marketed the NSX under the Acura badge. Having had both Hondas and Acuras, my experience has been the service level was much higher at Acura. Sure Honda has the S2000, but the GTR will be 3 times that. I trust the dealer that services my Porsches, as they are familiar with maintaining these types of cars. I would be hesitant to have them serviced by my local Toyota or Nissan dealer.
 
If you now understand the issue within this post, reconsider your response.
 
-kind regards
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Re: Big Picture [speedntktz] by paisan
Nov 26, 2007 (1:47 pm)
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Replying to: speedntktz (Nov 25, 2007 11:05 pm)

Gotcha, I missed the intent of your original post. I agree, if Nissan is selling this car for $70k, then it should be badged as an Infinity, although I'm not sure what "maintenance" really will need to be done other than oil changes and fluid changes, brake pads, etc. I do think a $70k Nissan is a bit whacked out.
 
On a side note I saw a Civic si Muguen today at a dealer (a co-worker was shopping there) and it had a $5,000 "market adjustment" over MSRP on it. I nearly had a cow!
 
-mike
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Re: Big Picture [speedntktz] by qbrozen
Nov 26, 2007 (2:46 pm)
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Replying to: speedntktz (Nov 25, 2007 11:05 pm)

Odds are, I wouldn't be buying this car.
 
However, I don't think a $70k Nissan is that big of a deal. I am just as wary of who I trust with my $1000 truck as I am my $40k truck. If I trust them, I trust them. It probably also helps that I have served as a mechanic, and I and everyone I've worked with took just as much care when working on a box truck with a Chevy 350 as we did when working on a $120K Kenworth.
 
Just because a service department serves Starbucks in their lounge, does not mean they have better mechanics in their bay.
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Re: Big Picture [qbrozen] by paisan
Nov 26, 2007 (2:50 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 26, 2007 2:46 pm)

I do believe they have higher paid, higher trained ones though. The other problem in the US today is that image is everything. That's why we have Caddy, Lexus, Infiniti, Lincoln, etc. If it is percieved as a Nissan, trying to get a 70k premium for it will be a lot harder than if it had an infiniti symbol on it.
 
-mike
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Re: Big Picture [paisan] by qbrozen
Nov 26, 2007 (2:52 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Nov 26, 2007 2:50 pm)

Call my crazy, but I don't think they will have any problems selling a limited production vehicle such as this. Heck if Ford could offload a $150k car with dealer markups, the GTR should be good to go.
 
The Phaeton isn't a good comparison because it was competing with Audi. If Infiniti offered their own GTR at a slight price bump, THEN there would be a problem.
 
And, by the by, I respect Nissan a great deal for sticking with heritage and NOT rebadging the GTR.
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Re: Big Picture [qbrozen] by paisan
Nov 26, 2007 (3:05 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 26, 2007 2:52 pm)

Yeah 1500 a year will sell, but then who really cares about the car if it's such an elite car anyway? I'm as much of a Nissan fan as anyone but I'm sure the car could easily be sold for $40k and they could sell about 20,000 units a year!
 
-mike
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Re: Big Picture [paisan] by qbrozen
Nov 26, 2007 (6:34 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Nov 26, 2007 3:05 pm)

I'm not sure I follow.
$40k for a 911 and corvette beater? I don't think so.
If you mean a "lesser" version for $40k ... well, yeah, I'm sure it could do well.

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