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Replying to: pmc4 (Nov 15, 2007 3:57 pm) I wish I could find the article to post, but I know this can't be true because the GT-R has already found its way into 5th or 6th fastest production car in history around the nurburgring, and they say they aren't done trying to climb even higher in the ranks.
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 15, 2007 5:52 pm) Wasn't teh article in Road and Track? In any case, I will not dispute your claim here; the GT-R should run near 7's at the 'ring. But performance around this road course and superlative handling characteristics are two different animals altogether. We have already learned that the Z06 wins awards for its track and road coarse performance, but falls (just a little bit) short in handling when compared to the rear-biased supercars (F430, etc) due to front-mid engine configuration. THe GT-R with the rubber that will generate a high 'ring finish will certainly also guarantee twichier handling (EMT tires will be the handling downfall for this car just as it was for the Z06). ...Do NOT expect first-place finishes for this car (GT-R) in upcoming comparisons against the rear-mid competitors (F430, rear 911, etc.). Again, it will be aptly and appropriately compared against the Corvette Z06; this is not a battle of idealogues. |
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How much do you think this GTR will "REALY" cost? From what I'm reading, Nissan steelerships are drooling and foamming at the mouth at their chance to rip sucker enthusiasts off. If true, it would make the 69k price a gimmick. Joseph San Diego |
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There are so many aspects to this car that are not being discussed here, I wonder if most of the people posting drive these cars on XBOX and PS3 rather than their own garage. One aspect that no one has addressed is service. This vehicle is a very complex car with expensive technology bits everywhere. How many of you are going to put out the $70K price plus the $10k - $20 dealer ransom to actually own one. After spending that much how confident will you be to have the tech at the Nissan dealer service your pride and joy. This isn't the Maxima or Sentra they service everyday. You would be hard pressed to find some technology on this car that is similar to the rest of the product line from Nissan. There is more to owning this car than what it's 0-60 time is or how much horsepower it has. I would be curious to know how many people plan to purchase this car for non-street use (racing).
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Replying to: speedntktz (Nov 25, 2007 1:33 pm) -mike
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Replying to: paisan (Nov 25, 2007 2:58 pm) If you now understand the issue within this post, reconsider your response. -kind regards
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Replying to: speedntktz (Nov 25, 2007 11:05 pm) On a side note I saw a Civic si Muguen today at a dealer (a co-worker was shopping there) and it had a $5,000 "market adjustment" over MSRP on it. I nearly had a cow! -mike |
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Replying to: speedntktz (Nov 25, 2007 11:05 pm) However, I don't think a $70k Nissan is that big of a deal. I am just as wary of who I trust with my $1000 truck as I am my $40k truck. If I trust them, I trust them. It probably also helps that I have served as a mechanic, and I and everyone I've worked with took just as much care when working on a box truck with a Chevy 350 as we did when working on a $120K Kenworth. Just because a service department serves Starbucks in their lounge, does not mean they have better mechanics in their bay.
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 26, 2007 2:46 pm) -mike
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Replying to: paisan (Nov 26, 2007 2:50 pm) The Phaeton isn't a good comparison because it was competing with Audi. If Infiniti offered their own GTR at a slight price bump, THEN there would be a problem. And, by the by, I respect Nissan a great deal for sticking with heritage and NOT rebadging the GTR.
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