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Replying to: pmc4 (Nov 14, 2007 9:41 pm) Just curious as I'm not real adept on the nomenclature of a mid-engine car, I guess cause the z06 engine is behind the front axle. -mike
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The Z06 is a two seater, the GTR has 4. The Corvette comes with mid-life crisis stigma. The Z06's handling has been described as scary by expert drivers. The GTR has been compared to the 911T and one writer has said the GTR feels more planted. I am a bit concerned about the weight and steering feel which has not been elaborated upon yet. If the GTR's steering feel is better than the fuged E92 M3's, the GTR wil be a good choice for me and I bet many many others. Joseph
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Replying to: paisan (Nov 15, 2007 8:00 am) Think about it. By your admission, a rear-engine car is one where the engine is placed behind the rear axle, and a mid-engine car is one where the engine is placed in front of the rear axle. Both definitions are correct. It stands to reason, therefore, that a car where the engine is in front of the front axle is a front-engine car, and a car where the engine is behind the front axle is a mid-engine car. The Corvette has its engine located behind the front axle. By definition, then, the Corvette is a mid-engine car. The Z06 is a mid-engine, near-exotic. The Corvette is considered a front/mid-engine and the Porsche Cayman or Acura NSX is considered a rear/mid engine. Both are mid-engine cars. Hope that helps! 
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Replying to: jmaroun (Nov 15, 2007 12:09 pm) THe GT-R, being a front-engined car that weighs a ton, in no way, shape or form can out-handle anything with a rear-weight bias unless tires were so selected to reduce polar adhesion. It's no difficult task to make a car that handles better than the E90 M3 unless we're talking about luxury cars...
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Replying to: pmc4 (Nov 15, 2007 3:52 pm) -mike |
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Replying to: pmc4 (Nov 15, 2007 3:57 pm) I wish I could find the article to post, but I know this can't be true because the GT-R has already found its way into 5th or 6th fastest production car in history around the nurburgring, and they say they aren't done trying to climb even higher in the ranks.
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 15, 2007 5:52 pm) Wasn't teh article in Road and Track? In any case, I will not dispute your claim here; the GT-R should run near 7's at the 'ring. But performance around this road course and superlative handling characteristics are two different animals altogether. We have already learned that the Z06 wins awards for its track and road coarse performance, but falls (just a little bit) short in handling when compared to the rear-biased supercars (F430, etc) due to front-mid engine configuration. THe GT-R with the rubber that will generate a high 'ring finish will certainly also guarantee twichier handling (EMT tires will be the handling downfall for this car just as it was for the Z06). ...Do NOT expect first-place finishes for this car (GT-R) in upcoming comparisons against the rear-mid competitors (F430, rear 911, etc.). Again, it will be aptly and appropriately compared against the Corvette Z06; this is not a battle of idealogues. |
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How much do you think this GTR will "REALY" cost? From what I'm reading, Nissan steelerships are drooling and foamming at the mouth at their chance to rip sucker enthusiasts off. If true, it would make the 69k price a gimmick.  Joseph San Diego |
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There are so many aspects to this car that are not being discussed here, I wonder if most of the people posting drive these cars on XBOX and PS3 rather than their own garage. One aspect that no one has addressed is service. This vehicle is a very complex car with expensive technology bits everywhere. How many of you are going to put out the $70K price plus the $10k - $20 dealer ransom to actually own one. After spending that much how confident will you be to have the tech at the Nissan dealer service your pride and joy. This isn't the Maxima or Sentra they service everyday. You would be hard pressed to find some technology on this car that is similar to the rest of the product line from Nissan. There is more to owning this car than what it's 0-60 time is or how much horsepower it has. I would be curious to know how many people plan to purchase this car for non-street use (racing).
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Replying to: speedntktz (Nov 25, 2007 1:33 pm) -mike
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