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It seems this GTR will be a typical supercar in many respects.. even the negative ones. 1.) It will probably command serious markups pushing into Porsche $$. Given the attitudes I've received already from local Nissan dealerships, my guess is that markups will be likely. 2.) It will be limited production -> meaning long waiting times. 3.) It will probably be very high maintenance given its extreme complexity. If the above prove to be true, it'll be a show stopper in terms of impacting Porsche 911 or BMW M3 sales. It may edge into Z06 sales though. The sad part is, it almost looked as if this Nissan would be kinda like a Robin Hood for poor auto enthusiasts.  The thought of owning a supercar for $66k lifted many a poor enthusiast spirits. The disappointment will be crushing, especially if the performance and driving experience rumors prove out to be true. Joseph |
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Since GT-R will have tires that are not filled by air but rather by nitrogen to null temperature effect, how are you going to inflate your tires when you need to and how about getting new set of tires? I will wait to see if GT-R lives up to its name. I think it will. Cannot wait until 2010 to get my hands on GT-R. |
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...Will no doubt be a good car when it does go on sale here. However, it will fall to the same fate that the Corvette Z06 did; in fact, perhaps even worse. The GT-R is a front-engine car; the Corvette is mid-engine. Therefore, more weight will be at the GT-R's front wheels, meaning a loss of steering feel (the main and only failing of the Z06). Corvette's mid-front setup means better steering feel, but still behind rear-engine cars like the Porsche 911 or mid/rear engine cars like the Porsche Cayman or the old Acura NSX. The Z06 is still the more exotic out of the two (aluminum, magnesium and carbon fiber versus Nissan's steel frame), so we can expect the Z06-with a more rear-bias, will almost certainly guarantee the Z06 the better handler. Any differing opinions from a technical standpoint?
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Replying to: pmc4 (Nov 13, 2007 9:24 pm) Have you taken into account AWD v. RWD? Are we talking on a road course? Highway? Drag? I know I've ran laps around Z06s in my Legacy GT Wagon at Watkins Glen in anything but "picture perfect" conditions. -mike
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Inside Line just announced the pricing. $69, 850 for the base model and $71,900 for the premium model This includes the delivery charges. They will be taking pre-orders on January 1st, 2008 and will officially go on sale in June. They will only be building 1,500 a year and will later announce the dealership locations of these bad boys 
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Replying to: paisan (Nov 13, 2007 9:43 pm) Have you taken into account AWD v. RWD? Are we talking on a road course? Highway? Drag? I know I've ran laps around Z06s in my Legacy GT Wagon at Watkins Glen in anything but "picture perfect" conditions." Since the GT-R weighs in at 3,800 pounds (200 pounds more than most luxury cars in the $50,000 range and as heavy as the Buick V8 Lucerne) and the Corvette barely tests 3,000 pounds, we can expect both handling and performance to be better in the Corvette than the GT-R. The GT-R does have AWD, but then again, so do most rally cars. This car should have been a Subaru, not a Nissan.
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Replying to: pmc4 (Nov 14, 2007 3:58 pm) -mike
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Replying to: paisan (Nov 14, 2007 4:39 pm) I'll agree with this correct reply, but remember. The Corvette Z06 nearly broke a performance record on Top Gear, yet its front/mid engine layout means there's going to be a handling penalty. For this reason, the Porsche GT3 generally beats the Corvette Z06 in comparison tests among automotive journalists, even though the Vette slaughters the 911 in performance. THe GT-R shall suffer the same fate; even worse, than the Corvette Z06. Why? Because, like the Z06, the GT-R has the weight up front (because that's where the engine is), hindering road feel and general handling. And its porky, 3,800 curb weight will most certainly make the car lose to the Corvette and most other near-exotics, unless it's compared against the Ferrari GT cars (in which case the Nissan GT-R should win easily since Ferrari GT cars aren't that special or competent) I'm sorry it has to be this way but that's what happens when the manufacturer decides on a front-engine configuration. The benefit to front-engine placement over rear or mid-engine placement is a concentrated polar moment located at and near the front wheels, lending to high-cornering stability over mid-engine cars like the GT3 and F430.
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