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Re: What do you have to do? [noice] by scottjohnson
Apr 05, 2005 (1:59 pm)
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Replying to: noice (Apr 04, 2005 8:56 pm)

Noice, I don't know what life stage you're at personally. For me, it has taken 25 years or so of that hard work to get to a point where I feel like I can treat myself to the RL and I make pretty good money. I bought my last new car 5 years ago and I've been saving that $600 a month since then so I was able to write a check for this one (after selling the old one). That's a luxury that I really enjoy right now but it is a recent thing. Five years ago a $30K car made me gulp.
 
I think that the comment about cars in this class being "lifestyle" cars is pretty apt. You have to really value a car to buy something in the RL's class. There are tons of great cars out there for about half the price if you just want transportation.
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Re: What do you have to do? [scottjohnson] by mikej1543
Apr 05, 2005 (4:24 pm)
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Replying to: scottjohnson (Apr 05, 2005 1:59 pm)

As someone who works pretty hard and has done so for over 35 years, I agree with the last comment. I don't take offense at the "lifestyle" description. And, yes, it is a real treat to be able to even be considering buying a beautiful machine like an RL and comparing it with the likes of Mercedes, Infiniti, BMW, Audi, etc.
 
On the other hand, as someone who ( I believe ) is smart with money, I'd prefer to have the same lifestyle and save some money. The RL is overpriced at 49K. It's a reasonable buy at 44 to 45 K. There's no reason why we should have to lease these cars at $700 to $900 per month when, they should be in the range of $500 to $600.
 
It's my life style I care about. Not my dealer's.
 
Just my two cents. Hang in there. I believe that prices are on the way down.
 
MikeJ.
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back on-topic by kirstie_h HOST
Apr 06, 2005 (5:49 am)
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OK, let's reserve this discussion for sharing stories about shopping & pricing. If you want to talk about the vehicle's features, the target market, or whether it's overpriced, the regular Acura RL discussion is the best place.
 
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Bought a new RL by cstiles
Apr 06, 2005 (9:01 am)
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We went ahead and picked up our new RL yesterday. We're in the Chicago area and there are definitely deals available. Ours is Premium White Pearl with Parchment interior, wheel locks, trunk tray, cargo net, all weather mats, and wood shift knob for $46K. Plus got a great trade value on our A4 (about $1000 over Kelly trade value). Also got 3.7% financing from American Honda Finance. The deal also included 3 yrs of free dentless ding repair, which was an add-on that they threw in. We probably could have gotten another $500 if we kept haggling, but we were ready for a drink after 4 hrs in the showroom.
 
BTW, why is the Edmunds "True Market" trade in value so much higher than anything posted by Kelly Blue Book, Black Book, and every other source that dealers use? Is "True Market" trade-in value realistic? Every source I could find on my A4 trade value showed $19.5K, but Edmunds "True Market" figure come in at $22K (in fact, $23K if I marked "outstanding" condition). Something doesn't look right with the Edmunds figure. Of course, Edmunds is also saying "True Market" for RL is MSRP, which is about $4500+ off the mark...
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Re: Bought a new RL [cstiles] by bartalk3
Apr 06, 2005 (7:51 pm)
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Replying to: cstiles (Apr 06, 2005 9:01 am)

cstiles: Where in Chicago did you buy your RL? Would you recommend them?
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Re: Bought a new RL [bartalk3] by cstiles
Apr 07, 2005 (8:24 am)
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Replying to: bartalk3 (Apr 06, 2005 7:51 pm)

Joe Rizza Acura in Orland Park. They were great. We had done our research so were ready to close the deal, and they didn't play any games. They currently have around 8 in stock--pretty much all colors except blue. Good luck.
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Re: Bought a new RL [cstiles] by bartalk3
Apr 07, 2005 (5:33 pm)
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Replying to: cstiles (Apr 07, 2005 8:24 am)

Thanks. I've been to that dealership awhile back when I was considering a TL. With Acura it's easier to negotiate than with other cars because everything (almost) is standard. No huge and confusing option packages, etc. One car, one price, everything included.
 
Have you had any problems with yours? On the problems board, lots of electronic glitches. I wonder if the car's electronics were thoroughly testd before introduction.
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Re: Bought a new RL [bartalk3] by cstiles
Apr 07, 2005 (7:17 pm)
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Replying to: bartalk3 (Apr 07, 2005 5:33 pm)

I'll keep this brief so we don't trigger the Edmunds police to say we're discussing this on the wrong board . I've had no problems but have only had the car for a few days (about 300 miles). I've read the posts regarding the electronic issues, also. Some of the issues are probably legitimate, but here's what I've learned about the electronics on this car....
 
The remote keyfob is critically important. You can't leave it in the car (or within 2 feet) for an extended time, since if you do, the car "knows" it's there and it will continue to remain "on." I think this explains some of the issues pertaining to the battery going dead.
 
The RL also "remembers" details for the last occupant, and if multiple passengers approach the car with their own remotes, it will set audio/climate control/seats, etc. based on which person/remote touches the car first. This explains some of the cases where someone gets back into their car and somehow their XM and other settings have inexplicably disappeared. They haven't disappeared---they've just been set for a different occupant. Also, each remote is unique to a driver, so if I get in with my wife's remote, it will set everything based on her settings. I can see why this can confuse people when they are not accustomed to it.
 
Finally, many of the diagnostics in this car are tied to the satellite and XM links. When those links go bad for whatever reason, it can impact the computer codes in the car. There obviously have been some minor glitches and service bulletins to reset some of the computer codes or satellite settings. This car is so full of high tech wizardry that it feels like you're driving a mainframe computer on wheels! But it is a nice ride---and there's nothing else quite like it on the road. It's not fair to compare the RL to V8 cars, since the VTEC V6 does not have as much low end torque. You have to wind it a bit to find the powerband, but it's very smooth all the way to the 6800rpm redline. That is not what most sport sedan owners expect....they want instant power when they hit the gas.
 
This is a great car and I'm looking forward to getting to know it better. The problem is, it's my wife's car, so I only get to drive it about 20% of the time.
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Re: Bought a new RL [cstiles] by bartalk3
Apr 07, 2005 (9:47 pm)
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Replying to: cstiles (Apr 07, 2005 7:17 pm)

Thanks for the detailed reply. I'm still trying to decide between the Acura, the GS300, and the forthcoming 330i. I test drove the Acura briefly and liked it. One thing I particularly loved is that tire pressure read out on the dashboard, something the Lexus doesn't have (only a warning light). What a time saver and safety feature that is.
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Re: Bought a new RL [bartalk3] by cstiles
Apr 08, 2005 (9:39 am)
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Replying to: bartalk3 (Apr 07, 2005 9:47 pm)

We drove the GS300 AWD, and although very nice, it felt more isolated. The V6 seemed more sluggish (interesting that the new Avalon has a much stronger engine). With the options we wanted, the GS was also at least $2500 more expensive than the RL, and possibly $5000 more since we didn't sense that they would bargain as much. I just couldn't justify it, although it is a very nice car.
 
Backseat and trunk also felt a bit tighter in the GS, although the RL doesn't blow you away in those areas, either.
 
I do like the touch screen approach in the Lexus, and no joy stick. And the interior is extremely classy and comfortable. But the controls in the Acura are also relatively simple. You can't go wrong with either car!! Good luck.

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