2006 Mercedes Vision B Sports Tourer - READ ONLY

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#28 of 37 B200 engine by ttb Mar 18, 2006 (9:44 am)
Does anyone know the normally aspirated engine has variable valve timing and air intake? With only 2 valves per cylinder, using premium gas but making only 134 hp with a 11.0:1 compression ratio, it seems to me this is an outdated engine!? I think the par now for normally aspirated 4 banger using regular gas is around 160 hp. Replies to this message: grandtotal (Mar 20, 2006 9:02 am) ttb (Mar 22, 2006 8:20 pm)
#29 of 37 Re: B200 engine [ttb] by grandtotal Mar 20, 2006 (9:02 am)
Replying to: ttb (Mar 18, 2006 9:44 am) 160 HP is about par for a 2.4 litre engine. The B200 has a 2 litre engine. On paper it is a little lacking in power but on the road it is adequate. If it's power (and, more importantly, torque) you are looking for the B200 Turbo has that covered. Replies to this message: ttb (Mar 22, 2006 8:20 pm)
#30 of 37 Re: B200 engine [grandtotal] by ttb Mar 22, 2006 (8:20 pm)
Replying to: grandtotal (Mar 20, 2006 9:02 am) But does it has variable valve timing and air intake to improve fuel efficiency and the rpm range with peak torque? I'm not a technical guy, but seem to me most normally aspirated engines have these nowadays. I asked the salesperson if it has variable valve timing and air intake, he paused and then answered "yes". I tried to look for something in the web that can prove this, but couldn't find any. I like Mercedes. I test drove it, both city streets and highway. City is okay, but it disappointed me on highway. I like the car and its versatility, but I have the feeling that Mercedes stick this engine in to keep the MSRP low in order to attract younger buyers. Acura's 2.0L 4 cylinder with auto tranny can make 155 hp and 139 lb ft, using regular gas at 9.5L/6.5L (city/hwy) per 100km. Mazda's 2.0L 4 cylinder can make 150 hp and 135 lb ft. With auto tranny and using regular gas, it uses 9.1L/6.4L (city/hwy) per 100 km. Any info on the normally aspirated engine will be appreciated.
#31 of 37 Turbo Diesel by maverick Jun 01, 2006 (9:15 am)
Any chance that the Turbo Diesel from europe will be available either in the US or Canada.
#32 of 37 greendoctor by greendoctor Sep 04, 2006 (6:35 am)
I dump my cars just before the warranty expires and as I set-out to do my search on my next vehicle, I ran across what I thought of as a possibility, B200. After having done my research, I now realize that B200 is not for me. Although, it may be comparable to the likes of Volvo V50 & Audi 3, they all cost at least $10,000 more than Mazda 3sport, Mazda 5 and many many other cars in this category. I personally do not care about the octane as I have always used high octanes for better milage & cleaner burning{more environmentally friendly}. So who is it for? It's for someone that wants to spend $10K more for a badge & prestige. I however would only pay half as much for those particular badges, at most.
#33 of 37 Price negotiations by grandtotal Oct 17, 2006 (11:03 am)
Any Canadians care to share whether they have had any success negotiating money off list price for a B Class? And, if so, how much?
#34 of 37 Mercedes B200 Turbo in USA by califb200 Sep 15, 2007 (9:06 pm)
Are there any other B-200 Turbo owners besides us in the U.S. (we're in California)?
#36 of 37 B in Canada by stevebou Apr 11, 2008 (5:46 am)
I purchased an 08 in October and love it. I had a stiff criteria when searching for cars. I have a new baby boy and we found that, with 2 tall parents and a rear facing car seat, there weren't many option that were comfortable for us. We traded in our Subaru Forrester where my poor wife had her knees smashing against the dash. I also have a big dog and needed cargo space to haul her around. I didn't want to buy american and didn't want a boxy SUV. I was really hoping to find an AWD wagon, but all were out of my price range. I was considering the 08 Impreza since the interior space was better than the Forrester (??), but i felt crowded in the driver's seat. I never thought I'd buy a MB, but after looking at it at the auto show, I thought I'd bring my wife to the MB dealership to check it out. We both loved it. There is way more interior space than you'd expect. Powertrain is decent. Ride is great. The CVT takes some getting used to, but overall a great car. I wish I could afford the turbo and have a little more fun around town... My only problem now is that I feel like I must explain to everyone I meet that the car is not as expensive as you'd expect. I didn't buy it for the prestige. Blah, blah...
#37 of 37 $ off List by stevebou Apr 11, 2008 (5:50 am)
Right, regarding the negotiation... Salesman told me that they make 10% on the vehicle at an MSRP of $30000. He knocked it down by $2000. Lease rate of 4.5%. Not the best deal in town, but I'm not the best negotiator either...