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Automotive News & Views Daimler's abuse of the Dodge Charger legacy.
659 messages, Last post on Jun 21, 2006 at 2:03 PM
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of a 60's RamCharger. At least not a production car. Was that a racecar or something? I know they used the name Cross Ram on some of their big block wedges with the offset dual quad setup. Oh, here's a dumb question, but in the song "Shut down", was the lyric "Super Stock Dodge is starting out in low" or "Super Stock Dart's starting out in low"? I swear I hear the second. But then I also hear "'Scuse me, while I kiss this guy" in that Jimi Hendrix song! 
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Replying to: andre1969 (Feb 21, 2006 9:02 am) The lyric is "Super Stock Dodge", in fact it say "two cool shorts" which were altered wheelbase cars. And although I've seen "short" Coronets and Impalas I cant image a "short" Vette. 
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Replying to: ubbermotor (Feb 21, 2006 10:11 am)  Rocky
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Replying to: rockylee (Feb 21, 2006 5:14 pm) |
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| I think those '62 Dodges are kinda cool, in a vulgar sort of way! And while the GTO might get credit for kicking off the musclecar phrase, these '62 shrunken Dodges and Plymouths fit that formula to a Tee. They were passed off as downsized full-sized cars, but were about 15 years too early for that to work. They were really more mid-sized. And they were designed, from the get-go, to accommodate any Mopar engine on up to the 413 and 426 big-blocks of the time (the 440 didn't come out until around 1965 or 1966). | |
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I think your right on the second verse seeing that '62dodge is a Dart.The 440 came out in '66 along with the 426 Hemi.In '67 the high performance was born with the GTX.I also checked out the specs for the new Challenger and its not small just looks that way.it has 197.8 length which is 1in. longer than the 300.it is 78.6wide which is 4inches wider than the Charger.116in.wheelbase which is 4inches shorter then the Charger.I couldn't find the weight.With a Hemi 6speed std.0-60 in 4.5secs.1/4 mile in 13.top speed is 174.Its fast. |
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for the original '70-74 Challenger, and it looks like they were about 76" wide. In comparison, the '70+ Camaro and the "fat" '71-73 Mustangs were 74" wide. Interesting, considering back then the Mustang and Camaro were based on compact cars, while the Challenger and Barracuda were based on midsized cars, that the Challenger didn't end up that much fatter. These cars were pretty much rendered obsolete by the likes of the Demon/Duster, which were only around 72" wide, had smallblock V-8's that would run with the big boys (and often embarrass them), were more maneuverable, and roomier inside. Ford never really offered anything truly high-performance on the Maverick platform, although you could get them with a 302 V-8. Earlier versions of the Nova were incredibly hot, with engines like the hopped-up 327, 396, and 402. However, by 1971 the top engine was a 270 hp (gross, about 200 net) 350, and it only went downhill from there. Plus, a Nova was heavier than a Demon/Duster or Maverick, so it needed more cubes to move. I wonder if one reason they made the Charger concept so wide is to keep the proportioning? The original was 76" wide and about 192" long. So, since the new one is 198" long, perhaps it would have looked awkward if they kept it at the 74" width of the 300/Charger? Believe it or not, it might have actually made the car look bigger. One styling trick to make a car look bigger is actually to make it narrower. Sounds silly, but it tricks the eye into thinking the car is longer than it actually is. Until something else parks next to it to give you a true perspective of its real size.
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Replying to: andre1969 (Feb 24, 2006 5:20 am) Actually, the Duster was introduced in '70, the same year as a Challenger. And although the Challenger was a larger version of the also new Barracuda, the Duster was a continuation of the previous Barracuda (the 70 340 Duster used 69 Barracuda trim and interior instead of the Valiant parts used on lesser Dusters).
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Replying to: ubbermotor (Feb 24, 2006 8:43 am) I had '68 Barracuda door panels in my '68 Dart for awhile. Almost a perfect fit, except that the rear panels were a bit too short. The Barracuda was on a 3-inch shorter wheelbase than my Dart hardtop, and all of that 3 inches was taken out of the back seat area. The seatback hid most of the gap created by the shorter rear interior panels, but you could still see it. |
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Replying to: ubbermotor (Feb 21, 2006 10:11 am) trying to tell someone on another forum how to do this. Thanks for your help.
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