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Daimler's abuse of the Dodge Charger legacy.

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Re: I really doubt... [rockylee] by m1miata
Feb 20, 2006 (6:57 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (Feb 19, 2006 11:39 pm)

SUV is an SUV is an..... Best deal is the Mazda Tribute. Saw one with a stick last year for $15K -- brand new! Now that is the way to buy an SUV, if you want one.
 
Meanwhile back on the subject.... The Charger is not so much an abuse of the legacy due to it being a four door sedan, but rather it being an awkward looking version of a luxury car. A modified 300, which is suppose to be Bentley, or Rolls Royce like, not a sports sedan of American breed. Sorry, but it is just odd. May even be a value in power and performance, while being a good enough car to own. But it looks like a high school project to turn a formal, big heavy, Euro looking model into a Charger. The great Houdini could not do that trick.
 
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Re: 78 inches... [andre1969] by m1miata
Feb 20, 2006 (7:07 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Feb 20, 2006 6:34 am)

Yeah, I wish they would shrink some. 74" is my limit. The Stang is getting fatter with age. Yeah, I know I am too. Anyway, sporty cars should be lighter and smaller. I wish Chrysler would make a smaller Challenger, with a V6, and based on a new platform. A new, RWD platform for the smaller sedan, coupe and Challenger. Make them all around 3,000#, like the Altima, with the 250HP V6, and 5 or 6sp. automatics, or stick shifts as a delete price item.
The size should be around the BMW3 sized auto. With sedan or coupe at $20K, and 21K for a Challenger. All starter, without most extras, like anti-lock brakes, and fancy stereos and such. Have upgrade package for say $3K.
 
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Re: I really doubt... [m1miata] by rockylee
Feb 20, 2006 (8:05 pm)
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Replying to: m1miata (Feb 20, 2006 6:57 pm)

SUV is an SUV is an..... Best deal is the Mazda Tribute. Saw one with a stick last year for $15K -- brand new! Now that is the way to buy an SUV, if you want one.
 
Better watch it that Mazda Tribute is UAW made.
 
Rocky
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by ubbermotor
Feb 21, 2006 (8:56 am)
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80's;The Charger was an Omni based coupe the Omni. It was called the Omni 024 when it was introduced in '79, Omni was dropped in '81, Charger was added in 82, and the 024 was dropped in 83. The base engine was either a 1.7L 70hp volkswagen, or a 1.6L 62hp Peugoet. Dodges own 2.2L was available in 84, 96, 110, 146 and 174 horsepower versions through its lifespan that ended in 1987.
 
70s-80s; Dodge revived the Ramcharger name for its full-size SUV in 1973, which recieved only minor updates before it was cancelled almost 2 decades later.
 
60s-70s; Dodge introduces a aerodynamic coupe based on the B-body format in 1966. It is considered the replacement for the larger (but also B-bodied) Ramcharger, but the name is shortened to just Charger. The styling is updated in ’68, 71, and 75, and is then renamed Magnum when the 75 design is freshened with square headlights.
 
Early 60’s; Dodge introduces its own track ready superstock under the name Ramcharger in 1962. It is basically a light weight, race ready version of the full-sized Polara/Monaco. It inspires such songs as “Shut your down” and “The little old lady from Pasadena”. It carries over to the Coronet in ’65 before being replaced by the Charger in ’66.
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I've never heard... by andre1969
Feb 21, 2006 (9:02 am)
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of a 60's RamCharger. At least not a production car. Was that a racecar or something? I know they used the name Cross Ram on some of their big block wedges with the offset dual quad setup.
 
Oh, here's a dumb question, but in the song "Shut down", was the lyric "Super Stock Dodge is starting out in low" or "Super Stock Dart's starting out in low"? I swear I hear the second.
 
But then I also hear "'Scuse me, while I kiss this guy" in that Jimi Hendrix song!
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Re: I've never heard... [andre1969] by ubbermotor
Feb 21, 2006 (10:11 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Feb 21, 2006 9:02 am)

The Ramcharger was a performance package on the Polara, in the sence that the SS was on the Impala. Although it was intended as a race car, it could be licenced for the street.
 
The lyric is "Super Stock Dodge", in fact it say "two cool shorts" which were altered wheelbase cars. And although I've seen "short" Coronets and Impalas I cant image a "short" Vette.
 
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Re: I've never heard... [ubbermotor] by rockylee
Feb 21, 2006 (5:14 pm)
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Replying to: ubbermotor (Feb 21, 2006 10:11 am)

OH MY GAWD !!!!!
 
Rocky
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Re: I've never heard... [rockylee] by ubbermotor
Feb 22, 2006 (12:34 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (Feb 21, 2006 5:14 pm)

Okay, it may not be a looker, but in stock form it was faster in the 1/4 mile than a FI Vette of the same year. Yes, I know that in the song the Vette won, but it also said they were modified.
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Heck... by andre1969
Feb 22, 2006 (12:43 pm)
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I think those '62 Dodges are kinda cool, in a vulgar sort of way! And while the GTO might get credit for kicking off the musclecar phrase, these '62 shrunken Dodges and Plymouths fit that formula to a Tee. They were passed off as downsized full-sized cars, but were about 15 years too early for that to work. They were really more mid-sized. And they were designed, from the get-go, to accommodate any Mopar engine on up to the 413 and 426 big-blocks of the time (the 440 didn't come out until around 1965 or 1966).
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RE;Heck... by xtec
Feb 23, 2006 (7:36 pm)
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I think your right on the second verse seeing that '62dodge
is a Dart.The 440 came out in '66 along with the 426 Hemi.In '67 the high performance was born with the GTX.I also checked out the specs for the new Challenger and its not small just looks that way.it has 197.8 length which is 1in. longer than the 300.it is 78.6wide which is 4inches wider than the Charger.116in.wheelbase which is 4inches
shorter then the Charger.I couldn't find the weight.With a
Hemi 6speed std.0-60 in 4.5secs.1/4 mile in 13.top speed is 174.Its fast.

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