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#624 of 659 Re: Challenger pricing [m1miata] by john_324 Jan 03, 2006 (7:31 am)
Replying to: m1miata (Jan 01, 2006 7:56 pm) I think Loren's hit it on the nose: the price point will be the key...it'll have to be pretty similar to that of the Mustang for the Challenger to sell in any volume.   I think Ford's gotten it right in terms of the price...the Mustang is priced pretty much exactly where a car like that should be. GM and DC should hopefully take note...I want real pony car wars again!
#625 of 659 now here we go! by m1miata Jan 08, 2006 (10:10 am)
This is what a slick car looks like http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060108/ap_on_re_us/auto_show_muscle_cars Looks awesome! The only danger, if any, is that it becomes too retro, or replica car like in design. Perhaps I should not care, as I would be getting a modern day version of the original, without having to buy the original and update all the parts to make it perform to modern day standards. The car has the potential to blow away the Stang in looks. If they can get a modern day front to not look like a big fish lip sticking out front, like on the Stang, but more like the photo of the prototype in the article, it is one giant leap ahead of Ford. And the overall look, as back when, is so smooth. The Camaro and Challenger, both to my eyes was always a bit smoother and more modern for its time. The Mustang did however do what it was suppose to do with the design - looks more muscular. So it is not wrong, just different in nature. I love all three.   The Charger use to be slick looking in the same time period of around 1970, so now you have a bit of a dilemma. You have now reminded people, once again, as to how wrong the look of the Charger is when you get the Challenger correct. Maybe the Charger should have been called the 300S instead? Sure looks like a modified 300. And the modified look doesn't fully come off right IMHO.   Loren
#626 of 659 Maybe the Charger is working? by pf_flyer HOST Jan 10, 2006 (6:05 am)
With all the news being focused on the GM Toyota battle for world sales leadership, the Ford vs. Chrysler battle has been kind of lost.   "If Chrysler has some winners with its new products, it could pass Ford in North American production as soon as 12 months from now," Sean McAlinden, chief economist for the Center for Automotive Research in Ann Arbor, said Sunday.   http://blogs.edmunds.com/.ee8e4e3
#627 of 659 RE:Charger Working! by xtec Jan 17, 2006 (9:50 am)
I Think your right,I do own a Charger and I think its the best in it's class.I recently read the Mopar muscle mag. and it said the Charger had more pre orders than the hot 300 did.Thanks for your comments.I do see more mopars on the road then I ever saw. Replies to this message: rockylee (Feb 03, 2006 10:41 am)
#628 of 659 RE:Charger Working! [xtec] by rockylee Feb 03, 2006 (10:41 am)
Replying to: xtec (Jan 17, 2006 9:50 am) The Charger SRT-8 and 300 SRT-8 are on my short list. The SRT-8 Charger looks bad to the bone !!!!   Rocky   P.S. Especially for a 27 yr. old with 2 kids and a wife
#629 of 659 RE:Rocky by xtec Feb 08, 2006 (2:59 pm)
Thanks for the kind words on the Charger.I think its one of the coolest cars around.The SRT8 really gets your attention when you see it.I hope you make the right choice. I don't think you'll be disappointed. Replies to this message: rockylee (Feb 08, 2006 4:12 pm)
#630 of 659 RE:Rocky [xtec] by rockylee Feb 08, 2006 (4:12 pm)
Replying to: xtec (Feb 08, 2006 2:59 pm) The only gripe I have about the car is Gadgets and the same goes for the 300 which I like also. If Voice Recognition, AC seats, DVD surround sound were options I'd rush out and buy one. Right now I am going to probably wait and see what the Pontiac G8 becomes. Especially since I get a GM employee discount on them.   But yes it's a very cool car and isn't going to be off my test drive list when I decide to buy. Good Job Dodge !!!!   Rocky
#631 of 659 To each his own by m1miata Feb 10, 2006 (9:23 am)
Well I find the Charger an awkward looking version of the 300, and not a sporty car. First of all what works in styling for the 300, when hacked to make the Charger comes off all wrong. Secondly, the weight of the car is to high on the scale. Needs to lose 600#s or so. -Loren
#632 of 659 RE:to each its own by xtec Feb 10, 2006 (3:08 pm)
First of all the Charger is by far more sport looking then the 300.The 300 is more luxury.As for weight the 70'cuda with a Hemi weighed 3800lbs.That was a small car so to say that these care weight to much is wrong.My Charger has the V6 and has no problem moving this car.What do you drive?I bet I'll to you its not as good as the Charger.Thats why they call it opinion,but I backed mine with facts. Replies to this message: m1miata (Feb 11, 2006 11:02 pm) rockylee (Feb 14, 2006 10:26 pm)
#633 of 659 When you figure... by andre1969 Feb 11, 2006 (11:02 am)
that the Charger is about the size of an Intrepid, but RWD and beefed up, I don't think it's really all that heavy. What, around 3700-3800 lb for the V-6 and around 4,000 for the Hemi?   And if it's any consolation, the last time Chrysler made a car on a wheelbase of 120" or more, was 1978, and it weighed around 4600-5000 lb!   Now if a Charger handled really sloppily, accelerated like an automatic Mini with 4 people on board and the a/c running, or was a guzzler, then I'd be tempted to gripe about its weight. But despite that weight, it's rated something like 19/27 with the V-6, does 0-60 in around 8-9 seconds, and is a great handler, I'd say the additional weight is almost a non-issue.   There's an old cliche about light weight being its own reward, but it can also be a punishment. Notice that some of the more highly regarded small cars, like the Mini and the BMW 3-series, are porkers for their size classes. A Mini weighs about what a Corolla or Civic does, and a 3-series weighs in at around what midsized cars do, there must be something to the added weight.

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