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#600 of 659 I had to take a trip... by andre1969 Dec 01, 2005 (3:11 pm)
down to southern MD today for a funeral, and at one point I saw a black Charger coming up on me. That thing looked downright sinister. George Barris couldn't have made it look any meaner! And as it passed, I saw it was just a stripper model! It didn't even have alloys! But damn that was a good looking car!   I had my grandma in the car with me, and she even commented on it. Love it or hate it, the car definitely has presence.   Another thing that I thought was cool is that the guy driving it looked to be about 3 days older than Moses. Kinda makes me think about the old advertising saying, about how you can sell an old man a young man's car, but you can't sell a young man an old man's car. It's good to see a large-ish (I have a problem calling something that's really not much longer than my '68 Dart a "large" car ) that can appeal to both old and young alike.   Seeing how good the Charger looks, even the total strippo edition, only makes me want one all the more. The only problem I have now is that I really had my heart set on Magnesium. Now I'm kinda torn between that and black! Replies to this message: acura_el2000 (Dec 05, 2005 1:38 am)
#601 of 659 Re: I had to take a trip... [andre1969] by acura_el2000 Dec 05, 2005 (1:38 am)
Replying to: andre1969 (Dec 01, 2005 3:11 pm) Oh man, the charger is not what I call a car to be desired. The only good thing from this package is the engine, and the rear wheel drive. I dosent even come with a manual version. Such a dissapointment. I like how they try to call that a coke bottle upkick, when it just looks like a machine had the wrong programming when it was stamping out the sheetmetal. ahah. and whats with the back looking like an intrepid/stratus, I just want to spit on this car. Oh yeah, and it be a great feeling driving the same car that cops use. probly about as nice as having a last model impala, very exciting.
#602 of 659 I think the main reason... by andre1969 Dec 05, 2005 (4:58 am)
the "Coke bottle" upkick looks a bit more awkward on the Charger is because proportionally, the car has a large passenger cabin and a relatively short hood and trunk. The Coke bottle look worked beautifully on cars like the '68-70 Mopar intermediates, the big '65-68 GM cars, and the '66-67 GM intermediates. But those were all cars that were longer than the Charger, especially on the rear deck, and had shorter rooflines.   And yeah, the first thing I noticed about the Charger is that the rear-end does share a resemblance to the Intrepid. But since I have an Intrepid now, I don't view that as a bad thing. And I always thought the '98-04 Intrepid had a very faint resemblance to the '68-70 Charger rear end. With the fast rear window rake and just a hint of flying buttress, and the taillight treatment that goes full-width and tapers toward the center.   I drove a copcar once...a used '89 Gran Fury police interceptor. It was a good car in just about every aspect, except that it got horrible fuel economy (around 11-13 around town, but could break 20 on the highway), tended to eat starters (lightweight little things that by that time were actually made by an outside supplier that also supplied Honda) and tended to have carb problems (which were GM Rochester QuadraFloods by that time). It wasn't too exciting to look at...had an unpretentious, utilitarian look about it, but it had decent acceleration and awesome handling.   The new Charger is also, IMO, a very comfortable car. The driving position fits me very well.
#603 of 659 acura el2000 by xtec Dec 05, 2005 (2:32 pm)
First of all acura that tells me right there you drive a piece of garbage rice machine and you have the gull to talk about Chargers being ugly.Give me a break.Just today I went to the drive thru at my bank,and the girls said is that a Charger and I said yes.She then said I love those.I never heard that before and it does get a lot of looks more than a Acura. Replies to this message: lemmer (Dec 05, 2005 2:48 pm)
#604 of 659 Re: acura el2000 [xtec] by lemmer Dec 05, 2005 (2:48 pm)
Replying to: xtec (Dec 05, 2005 2:32 pm) "garbage rice machine"   Thanks for your unbiased views. It plays right into the negative stereotypes of the muscle car owner, ensuring that a portion of the car buying populace will never buy such a car for fear of being associated with such people.   Why do people think being insulting and ignorant adds to their argument?   I doubt people generally buy Acuras to get in hopes of having their choice validated by people at drive-thrus. I also doubt owners of Acura EL's are cross-shopping Chargers anyway.   As Rodney King says "Can't we all just get along?" (and have a friendly discussion about cars). I believe Rodney drove a Hyundai in the past.
#605 of 659 Easy by pf_flyer HOST Dec 05, 2005 (5:37 pm)
Let's not fall into the trap of making things personal here.   Stick to the cars please. Thanks!
#606 of 659 Wait a second here... by andre1969 Dec 06, 2005 (5:10 am)
isn't an Acura EL a Canadian Civic? That's almost the polar opposite of a Charger! We might as well save our breath here, because this type of argument would be about as productive as explaining the merits of a Mercedes to my buddy who proudly owns two Mark V Diamond Jubilees! Just as a Benz and a pimp-barge are going to appeal to two totally different types of people, so would a Civic and a Charger.   Lemmer, I believe a Hyundai Excel was what started the whole Rodney King thing in the first place! Supposedly he was doing around 115 mph in it when the police chased him down. Replies to this message: lemmer (Dec 06, 2005 5:56 am) john_324 (Dec 06, 2005 7:26 am)
#607 of 659 Re: Wait a second here... [andre1969] by lemmer Dec 06, 2005 (5:56 am)
Replying to: andre1969 (Dec 06, 2005 5:10 am) That was my thoughts on the subject - What intelligent discourse can come between a Charger owner and an EL owner.   The mark of a true car guy - we have a supposedly defining moment in our nation's history, and me and Andre are trying to figure out what kind of cars are in the background.
#608 of 659 Heck... by andre1969 Dec 06, 2005 (6:09 am)
as I recall, Hyundai even tried to capitalize on that event, by showing a Hyundai outrunning the cops in a tv commercial! It was yanked pretty quickly though, as it was considered in poor taste.
#609 of 659 Re: Wait a second here... [andre1969] by john_324 Dec 06, 2005 (7:26 am)
Replying to: andre1969 (Dec 06, 2005 5:10 am) "isn't an Acura EL a Canadian Civic?"   Is this an insult against Acuras, or Canada??

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