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#594 of 659 Re: The official report isn't out yet... [john_324] by lemmer Nov 22, 2005 (8:20 am)
Replying to: john_324 (Nov 22, 2005 8:15 am) I saw a "real" Charger over the weekend when I was jogging out in the country - a late 60s model. The other car in the garage, their daily driver I would guess, was a late model Accord.   Next door they had a 60s Impala with a new Corolla as their driver. A few houses down, a nice classic Chevy truck with a '90s Civic as their driver. This seems like a sign of the times.
#595 of 659 I thought that line... by andre1969 Nov 22, 2005 (8:38 am)
about having the best brakes was worded a bit awkwardly. I think I had to read it a couple times to figure out what they were saying. Usually when a sentence starts off with "despite being the fastest (or whatever) usually they follow it up with a negative!   I doubt that many people drive real old cars on a daily basis anymore, as many of them are all fixed up and the owners are trying to preserve them now. Heck, as much as I love old cars and get all nostalgic from time to time, my '00 Intrepid still logs most of the miles. I drove a '69 Dart from 1990-1992 and a '68 from 1992-1997, and it wasn't an experience that left me emotionally scarred or anything. I wouldn't want to do it today though, partly because of the fuel prices (the '68 was a 318 that got around 13/17), and partly because of the proliferation of big SUVs these days. A Dart could handle itself well in an accident with the typical traffic of the 90's, but these days even something like a Cobalt weighs about as much as my Dart! Replies to this message: lemmer (Nov 22, 2005 9:00 am)
#596 of 659 Re: I thought that line... [andre1969] by lemmer Nov 22, 2005 (9:00 am)
Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 22, 2005 8:38 am) Yeah, but you were faithful to your car company. All of these Alabama country boys I am talking about bought little Japanese cars.
#597 of 659 Ooh, that reminds me... by andre1969 Nov 22, 2005 (9:11 am)
back around 1990 when I first got my DeSoto, I started running into this local guy at car shows who was a real Mopar or Nocar nut. If it wasn't Mopar he hated it, and if it was Japanese he absolultely reviled it. He actually got pissed at me and quit talking to me when I bought my '67 Catalina!   Well, I hadn't seen him for years, but last year I ran into him at a local show in Rockville, MD. I didn't even recgnize him, but then I hear this "you still got that DeSoto?" and it registered. Well, we got to talking about cars, and I asked him if he still had any old cars. He said no, that he was tired of them breaking down and leaking all over the driveway and leaving him stranded, so his family had nothing but Toyotas now!   Now if that isn't poetic justice, I don't know what is!
#598 of 659 You are missing the glaring point of a name!!! by magnumengine Nov 25, 2005 (3:30 pm)
just do us all a favor and pull them out. just because it has a hemi doesn't make it a muscle car look at the dodge ram pickup with a hemi call that a charger while your at it. oh and by the way 440 magnum beats a 426 hemi m/f.
#599 of 659 Bad mouthing Charger! by xtec Dec 01, 2005 (2:49 pm)
For all you people bad mouthing the new Charger,if you don't like it don't buy it.Look the other way when you see one.All I know I don't care what they call it if I like it I buy it and thats what I did.I think My charger is awesome car with geat looks and when I drive it people look at it.When I see it in the parking lot it looks like a car with muscles.Who cares if its called a muscle car or not I think its as good as the 68 Road runner I had in my younger days and I enjoy driving my Charger as much as I did my old muscle car.I think is a good thing that it has geat brakes to stop I wish I had them on my Road Runner which caused me trouble some times when I had the speedometer buried.
#600 of 659 I had to take a trip... by andre1969 Dec 01, 2005 (3:11 pm)
down to southern MD today for a funeral, and at one point I saw a black Charger coming up on me. That thing looked downright sinister. George Barris couldn't have made it look any meaner! And as it passed, I saw it was just a stripper model! It didn't even have alloys! But damn that was a good looking car!   I had my grandma in the car with me, and she even commented on it. Love it or hate it, the car definitely has presence.   Another thing that I thought was cool is that the guy driving it looked to be about 3 days older than Moses. Kinda makes me think about the old advertising saying, about how you can sell an old man a young man's car, but you can't sell a young man an old man's car. It's good to see a large-ish (I have a problem calling something that's really not much longer than my '68 Dart a "large" car ) that can appeal to both old and young alike.   Seeing how good the Charger looks, even the total strippo edition, only makes me want one all the more. The only problem I have now is that I really had my heart set on Magnesium. Now I'm kinda torn between that and black! Replies to this message: acura_el2000 (Dec 05, 2005 1:38 am)
#601 of 659 Re: I had to take a trip... [andre1969] by acura_el2000 Dec 05, 2005 (1:38 am)
Replying to: andre1969 (Dec 01, 2005 3:11 pm) Oh man, the charger is not what I call a car to be desired. The only good thing from this package is the engine, and the rear wheel drive. I dosent even come with a manual version. Such a dissapointment. I like how they try to call that a coke bottle upkick, when it just looks like a machine had the wrong programming when it was stamping out the sheetmetal. ahah. and whats with the back looking like an intrepid/stratus, I just want to spit on this car. Oh yeah, and it be a great feeling driving the same car that cops use. probly about as nice as having a last model impala, very exciting.
#602 of 659 I think the main reason... by andre1969 Dec 05, 2005 (4:58 am)
the "Coke bottle" upkick looks a bit more awkward on the Charger is because proportionally, the car has a large passenger cabin and a relatively short hood and trunk. The Coke bottle look worked beautifully on cars like the '68-70 Mopar intermediates, the big '65-68 GM cars, and the '66-67 GM intermediates. But those were all cars that were longer than the Charger, especially on the rear deck, and had shorter rooflines.   And yeah, the first thing I noticed about the Charger is that the rear-end does share a resemblance to the Intrepid. But since I have an Intrepid now, I don't view that as a bad thing. And I always thought the '98-04 Intrepid had a very faint resemblance to the '68-70 Charger rear end. With the fast rear window rake and just a hint of flying buttress, and the taillight treatment that goes full-width and tapers toward the center.   I drove a copcar once...a used '89 Gran Fury police interceptor. It was a good car in just about every aspect, except that it got horrible fuel economy (around 11-13 around town, but could break 20 on the highway), tended to eat starters (lightweight little things that by that time were actually made by an outside supplier that also supplied Honda) and tended to have carb problems (which were GM Rochester QuadraFloods by that time). It wasn't too exciting to look at...had an unpretentious, utilitarian look about it, but it had decent acceleration and awesome handling.   The new Charger is also, IMO, a very comfortable car. The driving position fits me very well.
#603 of 659 acura el2000 by xtec Dec 05, 2005 (2:32 pm)
First of all acura that tells me right there you drive a piece of garbage rice machine and you have the gull to talk about Chargers being ugly.Give me a break.Just today I went to the drive thru at my bank,and the girls said is that a Charger and I said yes.She then said I love those.I never heard that before and it does get a lot of looks more than a Acura. Replies to this message: lemmer (Dec 05, 2005 2:48 pm)

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