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Daimler's abuse of the Dodge Charger legacy.

659 messages, Last post on Jun 21, 2006 at 2:03 PM
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Replying to: badtoy (Oct 19, 2004 8:31 pm) Hotchkis Suspension, a while back, teamed up with Car Craft or Popular Hot Rodding (I can't remember) and worked over a '69 Chevelle and a '69 Charger with their springs, shocks, sway bars, and polyurethane bushings, plus 17" wheels and tires. With just those simple mods, and less than $2,000 per car, both cars posted over .85 on the skidpad and 65+ mph slalom times... The, you just do the brakes, and you've got a new Z-28 in a cool, classic wrapper. |
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yeah but wear a boxer's mouthpiece to save your teeth over bumps.
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Replying to: andre1969 (Oct 19, 2004 6:41 am) Combining AMC and Renault to design and develop a car was a recipe for disaster. |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 20, 2004 10:51 am) |
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Chrysler ruined the Monaco name that evil wart of vehicle. I had 92' Monaco, evil car. Total Lemon. The Premier/Monaco on a test drive basis was much better car K-car variant. However these cars in real life experience often have reliability, design and workmanship issues that make pre-1999 Hyundai's and Yugo's look good. I almost lost my shirt financially on that car. Andre it's true the Premier served as the design basis (i.e. blueprint) for all cab forward cars. Particularly the LH cars. So to speak AMC/Renault designer inspired Chrysler to adopted the colaboartive team design concept and gave them the answer book to modern chassis design. Otherwise Chrysler would have only been able just keep recycling the K-car. Much like GM has done with the W-Body cars. |
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Well sure it can ride better than a WRX STi because you have the longer wheelbase. But it's just not a sophisticated suspension no matter what you do to it; however, it can be highly effective for smooth flat tracking situations. All in all though, old cars are pretty primitive compared to modern ones, and they love to pogo-stick on rutted roads, as you probably know. We long for the old days, but we really don't want them as they were, only as we imagine them I think.
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I don't know if the Monaco based on the Renault Premier can be said to have ruined the name. Most people have probably never heard of this vehicle. It was obscure even when new. Before Chrysler purchased AMC from Renault, AMC had planned to build a coupe version of the Premier called the Allure. It died when Chrysler took over AMC. The coupe market was dying by the late 1980s, so it was just as well. If I recall correctly, the 300 and Magnum are built at the former AMC plant in Canada. |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 20, 2004 7:43 pm) |
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| Those who want a coupe will join the sport compact coupe crowd who are being overrun by the sport compact sedan bunch. For some reason, everyone wants those rear doors nowadays, though I haven't seen a corresponding increase in carpooling. | |
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