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#136 of 659 Unfortunately... by andre1969 Jan 18, 2005 (11:39 am)
Mopar is also offering the 3.5 V-6 as a police package on the Magnum, which is called a "special service" package. The Michigan State Police tested such a beast when they rounded up a bunch of 2005 models for their annual test.   You can download the pdf file of the test here: www.nlectc.org/pdffiles/msp2005bulletin.pdf   In 0-60 it was slower than the Impala or Crown Vic. The Crown Vic has really improved in the past couple years, especially with the 3.55:1 axle ratio. The Magnum is just a hair quicker than the Intrepid 3.5 it replaced. Which, when you figure it's also about 300-400 lb heavier, maybe that's not too bad.   And once you get up to higher speeds, it does start to make up for it. It hits 100 mph slightly quicker than the Impala, but still behind the Crown Vic. And it's electronically limited to 117 mph. The old Intrepid 3.5 was limited to 135 mph, according to the MSP test of the 2003 models.   I'm sure a Hemi Magnum would more than level the playing field though, and send the Crown Vic and Impala crying home to their mommies Replies to this message: xmf314 (Jan 18, 2005 2:19 pm) explorerx4 (Jan 18, 2005 5:15 pm)
#137 of 659 Re: Unfortunately... [andre1969] by xmf314 Jan 18, 2005 (2:19 pm)
Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 18, 2005 11:39 am) Thanks for the information. I haven't driven a Magnum, but I sat in a couple of Magnums and the pinched rear windows restrict rear vision. The Charger with better rear vision would appear to be more suited for police work.
#138 of 659 Rapper 50 Cent to get first Charger by itsnotacharger Jan 18, 2005 (3:43 pm)
Rapper 50 Cent To Get First Dodge Charger   POSTED: 11:03 am EST January 18, 2005   AUBURN HILLS, Mich. -- It appears rapper 50 Cent gets what he wants.   DaimlerChrysler said it's rushing production on its 2006 Dodge Charger to make sure the hip-hop star gets the first one.   The update of the classic muscle car doesn't go on sale until the spring, but 50 Cent reportedly says he can't wait that long.   A Detroit newspaper reported that he told an industry magazine that, "I need to know what I gotta do to get that Dodge Charger first."   The same situation played out last year when the automaker made a special delivery of its Chrysler 300 for rapper Snoop Dogg.   The company said the connections are "worth more money than any advertising you could do in the marketplace." So what their saying is that Daimler is not only catering to, but seeking publicity from an industry that advocates drug use, thuggery, cop killing and rape.   How many Charger sales do you think Daimler will be making to law enforcement when they learn that?   Apparently, at the same time Daimler is wooing thugs, hoods and murderers some of its executives are telling Chrysler's lifelong customers to take a hike if they don't like the 2006 Charger.   My response to that is okay, I wouldn't give you "50 Cent" for that Ford Maverick look-alike anyway.   P.S. With the violent reputation of the Hip Hop and Gangster Rap music industries Daimler may want to make that an armored Dodge Charger.
#139 of 659 Re: Unfortunately... [andre1969] by explorerx4 Jan 18, 2005 (5:15 pm)
Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 18, 2005 11:39 am) a hemi magnum might be good in limited use(pursuit vehicle), but it's probably too expensive to maintain/repair for a whole fleet. cv's are pretty simple and cheap to maintain. btw, i'll let you know if i see '50' rolling in his charger. he owns the biggest house in town.
#140 of 659 by grbeck Jan 18, 2005 (5:18 pm)
jtrik: Chrysler got the rights to AMC's model names when it bought the company. Whether it is has kept those rights (companies have to file periodically to retain the rights to a name, if it is not being currently used) is another matter.
#141 of 659 Fity Cent by andyman73 Jan 18, 2005 (5:49 pm)
If he puts it in one of his vidoes, it will do more for sales than anything DC could come up with. Take a look at the Escalade crowd. The Charger is much more affordable to the hip hop crowd. They live and die by the words of their hip hop heros. Replies to this message: tripowergto (Jan 19, 2005 7:34 am)
#142 of 659 Re: Fity Cent by tripowergto Jan 19, 2005 (7:34 am)
Replying to: andyman73 (Jan 18, 2005 5:49 pm) Yeah, and this way they can corner the market by selling to both sides of the law...   While I agree with all those upset about only offering a 4 door Charger, I'm surprised that no one is complaining about the lack of a manual shift option in a so called muscle car.   GTO sales are averaging quite a few more 6 speeds sold compared to automatics. The new GTO may have sedate styling, but it is a true muscle car in every aspect otherwise. Serious affordable V8 power, manual shift RWD 2 door sports coupe with an AWESOME interior. The new Charger may sell better to the wannabe crowd but the new 400HP 05 GTO with hood scoops and split duals is the REAL muscle car. Take a test drive, you'll be impressed!!
#143 of 659 GTO by seminole_kev Jan 19, 2005 (7:40 am)
while it was the 2004 model, not the upgraded 05, I test drove the GTO and wasn't really wowed by it. Wasn't "rowdy" enough for me and the styling was a real turn off. Also, I didn't really see an impressive interior. Center stack felt a little cheap to me for the price (although to be fair, it wasn't anything different than you'd find in an Infiniti G35)   Hopefully the '05 model feels a little "hairier" for lack of a better term.   Not sure I'd really put the V8 Charger in a "wannabe" crowd. Although yes, I do wish they offered a stick as I'm a manual fan. But I know that would account for a very small percentage of sales in today's market. Still would be nice to offer it though. Replies to this message: tripowergto (Jan 19, 2005 7:54 am)
#144 of 659 A lot of wanna-be thugs... by andre1969 Jan 19, 2005 (7:43 am)
like to buy old ex-police cars, so there has always been a demand for both sides of the law wanting the same car! When I used to deliver pizzas in my '89 Gran Fury ex-sheriff's car, you'd be surprised at how many teenage kids were actually lusting over something more square than the box their playstations came in!   I think some of them like the idea of taking something that was once used for law enforcement, and suddenly having their own control over it.
#145 of 659 Re: GTO [seminole_kev] by tripowergto Jan 19, 2005 (7:54 am)
Replying to: seminole_kev (Jan 19, 2005 7:40 am) In comparing the GTO and Charger directly I'd argue that the center stack in the Charger is much cheaper looking as is the interior in general. The seats in the GTO are far superior.   If the 350HP wasn't "hairy" enough the 400HP certainly should be. The Charger Hemi is 340HP and heavier so I doubt it will feel very hairy.   I concider an automatic 4 door sedan a wannabe muscle car even if it has a V8. It wants to be too many things to too many people which immediately makes it a compromise. It will likely sell more(especially to the police) but it is a pretender.

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