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Automotive News & Views Daimler's abuse of the Dodge Charger legacy.
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 17, 2005 1:09 pm)  least 350 cid)V8, intermediate-sized coupe or convertible body. If someone wants to consider a '96 Impala SS or a '64 426 Fury a Muscle car, I can understand that but it doesn't fit the orthodox definition. The were lots of perfectly good performance cars that don't quite fit the "accepted criteria: Some were based on compacts, not intermediates-- Chevy Nova SS/327/396, Studebaker Lark R3, Dodge Dart Swinger 318/383. Many were pony car-based: Camaro SS 427/396, Boss Mustang 429 A lot were based on full -sizers: Galaxie 406/427, Fury 383/426 Hemi. Is a '62 Biscayne 4dr with a b-post a "muscle car".? It is if you want it to be and it could outrun many of the classics. |
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| Lots of good rides there! Things sure have changed. I suppose the SRT-8 300C would classify as a muscle car. Bigger but hipo powerplant with suspension and brake upgrades. Hopefully that 6.1 will find its way into the Charger, too. What's the going price on the SRT-8? 39-40K? Would change the horsepower performance wars bigtime. Especially at that price! You will have to double the cost to get the same from the Old World manufacturers. | |
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| well one could argue that Chrysler and Dodge products are now part of the "Old World Manufacturers" | |
| Well, I was hoping to avoid that connection! LOL | |
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I have to say how much fun i have reading this board lately. I love some of the passion of the anti Charger crowd, although i believe it's a hair misdirected, but it's their opinion and it is great. I've also enjoyed the other sides arguments, and now it's evolved into the muscle car debate...just love it. Someone mentioned AMC...I've always been a fan of the underdog and i've always made my purchase of cars different from the mass produced stuff...Since Chrysler swallowed up AMC, do they have the names of AMC as well? Javelin would be a great name to bring back..imho.. |
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I think the SRT-8 version of the Chrysler 300C is going to start off at around $50,000. On one hand, when you figure that it's not hard to load up a regular 300C to $40K+, even if they do start at $32,995 or whatever, maybe the $50K is a pretty good deal. However, I think in 0-60 it gets you down from just under 6 seconds to just under 5. It's wonderful for bragging rights, but I dunno if it's really worth the extra money. I know I wouldn't pay it! |
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Having seen the Magnum at the Los Angeles auto show, I can only describe it as a homely beast. However, I can see the hemi versions taking over police duties from the Crown Victoria. I'm sure that a police version would have better chassis dynamics than the Crown Vic, and it is spacious enough to carry perps in the back. If I were a fleeing evildoer, those cross hairs closing in on my rear bumper would get my attention. |
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Mopar is also offering the 3.5 V-6 as a police package on the Magnum, which is called a "special service" package. The Michigan State Police tested such a beast when they rounded up a bunch of 2005 models for their annual test. You can download the pdf file of the test here: www.nlectc.org/pdffiles/msp2005bulletin.pdf In 0-60 it was slower than the Impala or Crown Vic. The Crown Vic has really improved in the past couple years, especially with the 3.55:1 axle ratio. The Magnum is just a hair quicker than the Intrepid 3.5 it replaced. Which, when you figure it's also about 300-400 lb heavier, maybe that's not too bad. And once you get up to higher speeds, it does start to make up for it. It hits 100 mph slightly quicker than the Impala, but still behind the Crown Vic. And it's electronically limited to 117 mph. The old Intrepid 3.5 was limited to 135 mph, according to the MSP test of the 2003 models. I'm sure a Hemi Magnum would more than level the playing field though, and send the Crown Vic and Impala crying home to their mommies 
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 18, 2005 11:39 am) |
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Rapper 50 Cent To Get First Dodge Charger POSTED: 11:03 am EST January 18, 2005 AUBURN HILLS, Mich. -- It appears rapper 50 Cent gets what he wants. DaimlerChrysler said it's rushing production on its 2006 Dodge Charger to make sure the hip-hop star gets the first one. The update of the classic muscle car doesn't go on sale until the spring, but 50 Cent reportedly says he can't wait that long. A Detroit newspaper reported that he told an industry magazine that, "I need to know what I gotta do to get that Dodge Charger first." The same situation played out last year when the automaker made a special delivery of its Chrysler 300 for rapper Snoop Dogg. The company said the connections are "worth more money than any advertising you could do in the marketplace." So what their saying is that Daimler is not only catering to, but seeking publicity from an industry that advocates drug use, thuggery, cop killing and rape. How many Charger sales do you think Daimler will be making to law enforcement when they learn that? Apparently, at the same time Daimler is wooing thugs, hoods and murderers some of its executives are telling Chrysler's lifelong customers to take a hike if they don't like the 2006 Charger. My response to that is okay, I wouldn't give you "50 Cent" for that Ford Maverick look-alike anyway. P.S. With the violent reputation of the Hip Hop and Gangster Rap music industries Daimler may want to make that an armored Dodge Charger. |
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