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You are in the Porsche 911
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Porsche, Coupe, Convertible
Jan 28, 2005 (9:47 am)
Mine has been great, a real trooper. Only problems were:
1. Previous owner's neglect
2. Stupid electrical glitches, like car alarm, electric door locks.
But when I bought my used Porsches (this is #4, I've had one of each 914, 911, 912 and 928) I followed my own advice (for a change). I bought cars with a recorded history, had a good shop go over it with a fine tooth comb, and bargained a price to allow enough budget to bring the car "up to a safe and reliable standard".
Each time it worked out for me. There were no unpleasant surprises. Sure, I had to throw some money at each of these cars, but I had fun and while I never "made" money, I never took a bath on one, either.
The newer Porsches I can't quite afford---well, I could buy a mid 90s but then I'd have to do without other luxuries like health insurance. If this year is more prosperous I'd like to upgrade to an SC cabriolet. I'm shy of the 90-91s and won't buy one personally. I don't care who did what to it. I'm stubborn about that.
The new ones I've driven (2004) are of course a dream to drive compared to the old iron I'm pushin', but in some ways the older cars have a lot to offer as well.
I love that V-8 thunder and that King Kong gearshift on the 928. At the end of the day I feel I've been flying an old Mustang, not an F-16.
sorry for rambling. Porsche people get like this.
#32 of 237 Re: [Mr_Shiftright]
Jan 28, 2005 (12:54 pm)
"Porsche people get like this."
Thank God, I thought my mind was going! lol
Jan 29, 2005 (4:12 pm)
Shifty, paint your 928 like this if you really want that P-51 feeling.
Maybe throw on the shark's teeth and invasion stripes?
Hey JW, howdy partner!
Speeds2much, it's been a while. Has your P ship come in? Gettin' close?
Hope all's well.
Jan 29, 2005 (8:30 pm)
Actually that's what owners call the 928---"the shark", because the last models they made can eat a lot of expensive cars for breakfast. Mine isn't that fast, it's only a 4.5 liter sohc V8, but since the catalytic fell off accidentally and we re-worked it a bit, it's good enough for most street work.
#35 of 237 Re: [designman]
Jan 31, 2005 (7:56 am)
I take it that this is what you've done to the Boxster!
How does Mrs. Designman like it?
Good to see you again. JW
#36 of 237 Buying my first Porsche
Jan 31, 2005 (5:18 pm)
I am taking the last few careful steps before I own a Porsche. I am debating between a 2005 Boxster Conv and 2003 911(996) Carrera cab(RWD). My heart is for the latter (cant afford a new 911 though). Pardon my long post !
I wanted feedback and guidance on 3 key things :
1. Any known issues or things to watch out from a day to day or maintainence issues POV on either the 2005 Boxster or 2003 911 ?
2. Advise on pricing and deal.
The Boxster is a 2005 and currently with its options incl 18" Boxster S wheels, climate control, heated seats, sound package plus & windstop (deflector) is at MSRP $48,775. What is the realistic deal I can expect in terms of discount or any suggestion on what I can ask for. This car is at the dealers for ready delivery.
On the 2003 911, it is a certified one. Hence the warranty should run at least till 2007/48k or 2009/100k.It is with Tiptronic, 16k miles on it and has full leather, rear spoiler, bose sound package etc. The KBB value is $74,160. The dealer is quoting $72,995. According to the inspection report the car is in great shape except one curbed wheel. The tires are very fresh Frt6/32 and Rr8/32 (new 10/32). Again what is the realistic deal I can push for here.
3. This is more a financial solution question. With the boxster I could potentially buy it through a car loan, and with the 911 I would like to stick to a lease. But given that if I buy the boxster I would like to get a 911 in say 3yrs time, I am keen to lease that too. Any dos and donts on lease vs buy on either the 2005 boxster or more importantly on the 2003 911 ? Am i going to pay way too much into the equity and walk away on the 2003 911, if i decide to switch to a 911 S or 911 AWD later.
since I am a less experienced on the porsche side any other feedback or inputs would be great too.
Feb 01, 2005 (7:07 am)
balap - One known issue for most/all Porsches is a tendency to leak oil. The 996 owners sometimes gripe about an RMS (rear main seal) problem, which POTENTIALLY could lead to an engine failure if not addressed. If cost is an issue, naturally you're better off with a Boxster.
designman - Whoa, where'd you find that tank!? lol Does it have twin machine gun mounts on the hood? I think the owner should rent out the car to Hollywood. As for your question, yes, I'm getting close. :o)) It would be a 2006 997 oooor the mysterious upcoming Boxster coupe, which I have to consider, first of all for the substantial cost savings, but also because I might actually like it more on a ride/balance basis. I could also order special paint and leather and still come out way ahead. The main selling points for the 997, for me anyway, are that it has more power, more room, has a cleaner design and those back seats for the emergency take-a-friend or niece situation. I'm 6'1" and am tired of my sardine can cramped Jag. But we'll see....I can lease the car through my business, so 75% is a write-off, anyway.
#38 of 237 Re: Buying my first Porsche [balap]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Feb 01, 2005 (11:50 am)
1) Tiptronic really kills the value of a Porsche... It might not be showing up in the value of that '03, but it will surely show up when you get ready to sell it.. Should probably be a $3K-$4K deduction..
2) Used car leases are rarely good deals... If the only way to afford the 911 is a lease, then pass on it..
3) A lease is a good idea for the Boxster.. If at the end of the lease, you like it, you could always purchase it for the residual value.. If not, you'll be ready to buy that 911...
Not an expert... just my $0.02..
#39 of 237 Re: [Mr_Shiftright]
Feb 01, 2005 (1:07 pm)
Yes, but is not leaking yet. Thanks a lot
#40 of 237 Re: Buying my first Porsche [balap]
Feb 01, 2005 (5:32 pm)
Thanks for the tips and advise so far,appreciate it. Given that now I am swinging more in favour of the Boxster 2005 manual, any guidance on what kind of discount or reduction I should expect on the MSRP ?