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Saab 9-2X, Hatchback, Wagon
#116 of 165 Re: Aero pricing quote - reasonable at 21,275? [ronsteve]
Jul 30, 2005 (9:09 pm)
After getting further information on the "employee discount", as well as all options - the price was indeed high.... by only 75 cents. Bought it.
#117 of 165 smoke from under hood
Jul 30, 2005 (9:33 pm)
Took delivery of a 9-2x Aero (automatic tranny) today, and after about 10 mins of city driving, took it on the fwy for 50 miles. After turning off the engine, it smelled like oil burning - and white smoke seeped from the hood scoop. After opening the hood, the smoke seemed to come from the rear of the engine on the passenger's side. After further driving, the smell continued when I turned the engine off, but no smoke was detected.
Was this a factory solvent burning off normally, or should I be concerned?
ps: I haven't taken it beyond 4000 rpm, but it did get to 90 mph on the highway before the incident occurred. Other than this smoking issue, I'm extremely happy with the car.
#118 of 165 Re: smoke from under hood [cindylu]
Jul 31, 2005 (8:30 am)
This seems to be what your initial intuition was -- factory solvent burning off normally. I think most new cars go through this. You do have enough engine oil, in there, right?
How was the auto Aero, BTW, driving-wise? How do you find the turbo lag? Is it bad or liveable?
#119 of 165 Re: smoke from under hood [cindylu]
Jul 31, 2005 (11:36 am)
I also agree with your initial assessment. Just make sure all the fluid tanks are at their proper levels and give it a few days of driving to see if it goes away.
#120 of 165 Re: smoke from under hood [crikey]
Jul 31, 2005 (12:00 pm)
I guess it's the cosmoline that's put on before shipping to prevent surface corrosion during ocean transport. That's what I've been told. Regardless, it hasn't done it today - the smell's not there anymore, either.
Concerning the automatic - it's not bad at all. It's quicker than our '95 Camry. Once the break-in period is over I'll give it full throttle (right now it's not getting past 4000 rpm. I've not driven the manual, which is surely more spirited off the line - but on the highway this automatic is superb. When passing a car you quickly get up to 90 mph without even realizing it. Our driving is primarily city and Detroit-area highway sprints - so the automatic suits us just fine.
Overall, I really couldn't be happier with this car. ">
#121 of 165 Re: smoke from under hood [cindylu]
Jul 31, 2005 (2:30 pm)
Thanks for your feedback,Cindy. I'm still contemplating about getting one tomorrow. There's a Satin Grey Auto 9-2X Aero with Cold Package at the closest dealership to me. It's just a matter of what I can get for my trade. If the numbers are right, I may pull the trigger. Lord knows I don't want another car payment (current daily driver was paid off years ago) but the deal is too hard to ignore.
Jul 31, 2005 (4:39 pm)
Get it. If it's an automatic, don't pay attention to the boy racers who advise against it. It's a wonderful car for the $21,075 out-the-door price I got. Gas mileage could be better (averaged 25 mpg on the highway yesterday after picking it up 200 miles away), but it's about the same as what I'm used to. And the insurance cost is surprisingly cheap, too.
I like it more every time I drive it.
Jul 31, 2005 (5:37 pm)
The automatic Aero may be the slowest car in the world...but if you want a good deal on it now is the time to pull the trigger. Tommorow is the last day of the employee discount and the only 9-2's left are automatic Aeros. The car is so slow not a single one was sold in my state for the past 2 weeks (I call dealerships once every 2 weeks just to check). The dealers say they are selling like crazy, and perhaps this was the case a few months ago, but not so now. The dealers want to dump these cars ASAP because if nobody is buying them now they are dead meat when the rebate gets cut to 3k. I am very confident I can force a dealer to sell me my auto Aero for 20k including taxes and all fees. But do I really want it even for that? There are two huge proglems with this car and there is really no way to sugarcoat it. The acceleration is so slow the car is actually unsafe to drive. To make it accelerate faster will take around 2k in upgrades and labor. These mods may also void the warrantee. The second problem is the resale value. These cars are already listed used at autotrader.com for around 18k by dealers, which means that whoever traded them in got around 16/17k for them. What other 30+k car you know of loses half of its value in its first year? Considering all this...it is very hard to make a case for this car. It looks gorgeous, but can you buy it on looks alone? Don't know what to do.
#124 of 165 Re: good news [xred_octoberx]
Jul 31, 2005 (7:01 pm)
You sound like you are trying to convince others not to buy an automatic Aero so there will be more choices for you on dealer lots?! Seriously, how can you bad-mouth a car so strongly and then say you want to buy one?
I haven't driven the 9-2X, but I believe you are seriously overstating the slowness of the Aero automatic. This is still a fairly small car with 227 horsepower, and there are many many vehicles on the road that are slower.
It is meaningless to compare original MSRP when calculating resale value. Compare the actual price paid when new and the current value. Those are the only 2 numbers that matter.
#125 of 165 aero automatic
Jul 31, 2005 (8:07 pm)
It's not slow!
Don't listen to that "xred octoberx" character... "so slow the car is actually unsafe to drive"??????? It's faster than my Camry, my CRX Si, and I still haven't taken it past 4000 rpm (redlines close to 7000). I can't wait until the 1000 mile break-in period is over with.
And unless you plan on selling it in a year, why should resale value matter? Buy a car you enjoy and will continue to enjoy for the four or five years you'll be making payments.
I'm sure the 5 speed is more sporting, but the automatic is fine with me.