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#780 of 1195 Re: VW re longo2 [maigre]
Oct 22, 2009 (7:53 pm)
"VW's always talking about being dedicated to improving quality control"
Actually what they've been talking about lately is cutting build time, content and their costs. They complain that it takes way too much time on the production line to build a Jetta.
So, look at what they've taken from the Jetta TDI from the past 2006 model year, no more real leather, no dual control climate package, no more power memory seats, now only grey and black interiors etc etc...the next VW move to cut costs and put them together them faster is a new factory in Tennessee to build a 2011 "American Model"..any VW buyers out there want their new Jetta to be built..faster?
#781 of 1195 Re: VW re longo2 [longo2]
Oct 23, 2009 (8:46 am)
Just to save you some time, its Hyundai 13 out of possible 20
VW 8 out of possible 20
8 and 13 out of a possible 20 what?
Colored in circles?
2.6 problems per vehicle for VW
1.5 problems per vehicle for Hyundai
#782 of 1195 Re: VW re longo2 [moparbad]
Oct 23, 2009 (1:43 pm)
20 being the best, or, no reported problems, perfect score
0 score being a vehicle that's just been crushed?
#783 of 1195 Re: VW re longo2 [maigre]
Oct 23, 2009 (6:47 pm)
I'm also very interested in the Jetta TDI, but drive about a 1000 per wk alot of
it in traffic. Have an 07 Accord with 150k that has been absolutely bulletproof, but
love the way the TDI drives and the mileage. Really need and automatic but the
reliability of the DSG makes me nervous. What are peoples thoughts? Get the
TDI with 6spd, try the DSG, or stay with another Accord?
#784 of 1195 Re: VW re longo2 [kingsfan2]
Oct 23, 2009 (10:34 pm)
Above is a nifty .gov comparo. You can customize the C/H miles percentages, fuel costs etc.
Upshot: you save $1,778 per year or $148 per mo.
There is no doubt in my mind the 07 Accord will easily do you 300k, if not 400k.
So being as how you already have/own the Accord:
1. Accord A/T (I presume)
2. TDI, manual 6 sp
3. TDI DSG 6 spd.
#785 of 1195 Re: VW re longo2 [rcarr7]
Oct 24, 2009 (10:27 am)
I agree with rcarr but for slightly different reasons.
You already have a ton of miles on your Accord, so keeping it for another year won't make that much differece on a trade in.
(and as he points out, you save a lot of money each month by keeping it)
By then the total re-designed Jetta TDI's will be out in 2011.
Or if you got real lucky, Honda will get off their a$$ and bring over their 2.2 ltr Diesel Accord they have had running around Europe for years.
#786 of 1195 One Sweet TDI set up
Oct 24, 2009 (3:35 pm)
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I have read on Euro TDI forums that this 2.2 Diesel gets about the same mpg's as the VW TDI.
Seems it didn't pass the emmisions tests for the U.S. in a/t form. In Standard transmission, however it did.
Honda packed it up, went home in a huff and I haven't heard a peep of gossip, news, speculation or hints of it coming to North America since all the Hoopla in 2007 when they brought over the TDI test cars.
If the rest of the Auto Builders are noticing that VW's TDI's are hot items in N.A. we should be seeing some clues soon.
#787 of 1195 Re: One Sweet TDI set up [longo2]
Oct 24, 2009 (4:07 pm)
I for one had been looking forward to a Honda (Civic) iTEC. The news took various twists and turns and it went from Civic to Accord to Acura TSX...back to nada.. However, I think one of the reasons Honda did not bring an iTEC Accord to the US market was / probably continues to be price.
Just a quick snapshot shows (gassers) VW Jetta to be app $3,000 cheaper than a comparable Honda Accord.. When I purchasted a 03 VW Jetta TDI, there was considerable angst and criticism with a sub $300. premium over a turbo gasser Jetta !!?? Fast forward to 2009/2010 time frame and Edmunds.com (last I checked) showed the TDI to have up to $3,500 over the 1.8 T Jetta. Current TMV price difference is $2,300. (generic- not indepth)
#788 of 1195 Re: One Sweet TDI set up [rcarr7]
Oct 24, 2009 (4:42 pm)
"Fast forward to 2009/2010 time frame and Edmunds.com (last I checked) showed the TDI to have up to $3,500 over the 2.0 T Jetta."
Now don't you wish you had bought an extra 03' as a hedge against the crazie$ out there now?
#789 of 1195 Re: One Sweet TDI set up [rcarr7]
Oct 24, 2009 (6:17 pm)
(true market value) is an elusive number when you are dealing with VW on a TDI.
Right now they pretty much have this diesel car market all to themselves.
I know there are a couple of other options, but all upscale' from the Jetta, Golf and Beetle.
It's a market that is ripe for Ford, (they already have a couple of great little diesels in Europe), Honda, if they want to jump in with their already proven 2.2 and even Hyundai is (gossip alert) working on a diesel Elantra.
Til then it seems VW is the only game in town for a moderately priced high MPG diesel vehicle, so TMV is tough to get on the table at buying time. .
In the U.S.A. the auto makers are all fighting a diesel head wind in the market...iffy availability of ULSD (could only find 2 places in Helena Montana on the trip home, and a big truck stop in New Mexico where everybody thought I was crazy when I filled up the Jetta at the diesel pump) and for some strange reason, some sort of a Diesel is 'Anti American' feeling.
I have made the rounds of dealerships and looked at the shrunken list of options now available and the rising M$RP's on Jettas, decided to buy a low mileage 2006 Jetta with DSG and full Option 2 package, and call it done.