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Replying to: longo2 (Oct 22, 2009 7:34 am) There are some trade offs of course and I'm sure VW fanboys will be glad to point them out.-end VW haters are mired in the past. VW improved it's reliability. Recommending Hyundai for it's quality over VW is so ironic in the overall context it is almost beyond funny to absurd. The below commentary from Warren Brown column is relevant. -from Warren Brown column- Baltimore, Md.: I've seen you recommending the VW Jetta TDI for the past several weeks now, and after taking one on a test drive, I'm now really interested in buying one. However, many people have emphatically told me to steer clear of VWs, citing numerous reliability and maintenance problems they've had over the years. Has VW taken any steps to address these problems for the '09/'10 models? Warren Brown: Reputations. Good ones are easily lost. Bad ones tend to hang around long after things have changed. At VW, particularly in the mid-Atlantic region in the matter of maintenance and repairs, things have changed for the better. The Jetta TDI is a darned good car now backed by a company that acts on the notion that "total quality" includes repair service. -end
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Replying to: moparbad (Oct 22, 2009 1:26 pm) Well mopar, sorry to say it's neither ironic, funny, or absurd, check the latest JD Power reliablity reports and see who got the better scores. Just to save you some time, its Hyundai 13 out of possible 20 VW 8 out of possible 20 I wish it were the other way around, I have a Jetta TDI sitting in the garage, if you really wanted the most reliable car out there today, the reports says...Buy a Buick.
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Replying to: longo2 (Oct 22, 2009 6:07 pm) I'm shopping for a new one now and am not exactly impressed with the scene at the dealers I've visited. VW's always talking about being dedicated to improving quality control, but until it's been proven over a period of at least a few years, it's all talk. And why they continue to allow their dealers to behave the way they do is beyond me. Makes it even harder to take the pronouncements about their determination to make things better seriously. That said, I'm getting a Jetta TDI anyway. Originally, I wasn't going to get another VW because of all the quality and service issues. But I ended up deciding I wanted the TDI. Even though I've had a good experience (I don't take it to the dealer for service, of course), I have eyes and ears and literally nobody else I know who has had one in the years since I got mine is happy enough to stick with VW.
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Replying to: maigre (Oct 22, 2009 6:41 pm) Actually what they've been talking about lately is cutting build time, content and their costs. They complain that it takes way too much time on the production line to build a Jetta. So, look at what they've taken from the Jetta TDI from the past 2006 model year, no more real leather, no dual control climate package, no more power memory seats, now only grey and black interiors etc etc...the next VW move to cut costs and put them together them faster is a new factory in Tennessee to build a 2011 "American Model"..any VW buyers out there want their new Jetta to be built..faster? |
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Replying to: longo2 (Oct 22, 2009 6:07 pm) VW 8 out of possible 20 8 and 13 out of a possible 20 what? Colored in circles? 2.6 problems per vehicle for VW 1.5 problems per vehicle for Hyundai
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Replying to: moparbad (Oct 23, 2009 7:46 am) 0 score being a vehicle that's just been crushed? |
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Replying to: maigre (Oct 22, 2009 6:41 pm) it in traffic. Have an 07 Accord with 150k that has been absolutely bulletproof, but love the way the TDI drives and the mileage. Really need and automatic but the reliability of the DSG makes me nervous. What are peoples thoughts? Get the TDI with 6spd, try the DSG, or stay with another Accord?
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Replying to: kingsfan2 (Oct 23, 2009 5:47 pm) Above is a nifty .gov comparo. You can customize the C/H miles percentages, fuel costs etc. Upshot: you save $1,778 per year or $148 per mo. There is no doubt in my mind the 07 Accord will easily do you 300k, if not 400k. So being as how you already have/own the Accord: 1. Accord A/T (I presume) 2. TDI, manual 6 sp 3. TDI DSG 6 spd.
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Replying to: rcarr7 (Oct 23, 2009 9:34 pm) You already have a ton of miles on your Accord, so keeping it for another year won't make that much differece on a trade in. (and as he points out, you save a lot of money each month by keeping it) By then the total re-designed Jetta TDI's will be out in 2011. Or if you got real lucky, Honda will get off their a$$ and bring over their 2.2 ltr Diesel Accord they have had running around Europe for years.
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Replying to: longo2 (Oct 24, 2009 9:27 am)  See more Car Pictures at CarSpace.com I have read on Euro TDI forums that this 2.2 Diesel gets about the same mpg's as the VW TDI. Seems it didn't pass the emmisions tests for the U.S. in a/t form. In Standard transmission, however it did. Honda packed it up, went home in a huff and I haven't heard a peep of gossip, news, speculation or hints of it coming to North America since all the Hoopla in 2007 when they brought over the TDI test cars. If the rest of the Auto Builders are noticing that VW's TDI's are hot items in N.A. we should be seeing some clues soon. |
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