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Volkswagen TDI Models Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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HELP-Trying to buy TDI Sportwagen in Bay Area by bingocimo
Oct 15, 2009 (4:16 pm)
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I am about to give up.
 
This is the car I want but I refuse to pay over MSRP. And now with so few available it's even harder. The VW dealers are the WORST.
 
Does anyone know if VW is planning to ship more of these at anytime soon?
 
Otherwise I'll pocket $7,000 and get a Hyudai Elantra Touring.
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Re: HELP-Trying to buy TDI Sportwagen in Bay Area [bingocimo] by elias
Oct 16, 2009 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: bingocimo (Oct 15, 2009 4:16 pm)

bingo, you might try working with a dealer anywhere else in USA. many might be willing to do a "courtesy delivery" to your local dealer. At MSRP.
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Re: Buying 2010 Jetta TDI [oli1] by usma78
Oct 16, 2009 (5:19 pm)
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Replying to: oli1 (Oct 11, 2009 5:30 pm)

Steve White Audi and VW.
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Re: HELP-Trying to buy TDI Sportwagen in Bay Area [bingocimo] by jswtdifan
Oct 18, 2009 (1:34 pm)
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Replying to: bingocimo (Oct 15, 2009 4:16 pm)

Call Bridget at VW in Santa Monica for a fair deal. Expect MSRP.
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Re: HELP-Trying to buy TDI Sportwagen in Bay Area [elias] by oli1
Oct 22, 2009 (6:47 am)
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Replying to: elias (Oct 16, 2009 7:28 am)

Does this mean that if you do a "courtesy delivery" and you live in another state, you wouldn't have to pay shipping costs?
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Re: HELP-Trying to buy TDI Sportwagen in Bay Area [bingocimo] by longo2
Oct 22, 2009 (7:34 am)
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Replying to: bingocimo (Oct 15, 2009 4:16 pm)

"Otherwise I'll pocket $7,000 and get a Hyundai Elantra Touring"
 
With that extra $7,000 you will also get a better warranty, a vehicle with a terrific reliability reputation, and no need to scrounge for service stations with ULSD diesel pumps.
 
There are some trade offs of course and I'm sure VW fanboys will be glad to point them out.
 
In our area a JettaTDI wagon is over $33.000 before taxes. A loaded Elantra Touring is $10,000 less.
 
Personally I think they are all too much money, as the last round of car company discounts seems to show that dealer "invoice" is a joke and more like what MSRP should be, for starters.
   
Don't get me started on the Stealerships that are tacking on another $2,000 over MSRP just because they can...see the extra "$2,000 side stickers" at the Great Falls Montana VW dealer.
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Re: HELP-Trying to buy TDI Sportwagen in Bay Area [oli1] by elias
Oct 22, 2009 (7:46 am)
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Replying to: oli1 (Oct 22, 2009 6:47 am)

oli1, i do not recall any additional charge but it was long ago...
things may have changed and my knowledge about courtesy-deliveries is probably old/stale - maybe they are not done nowadays. salesfolks at the dealerships should be able to tell you the current info.
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VW re longo2 by moparbad
Oct 22, 2009 (1:26 pm)
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Replying to: longo2 (Oct 22, 2009 7:34 am)

quote longo2-
There are some trade offs of course and I'm sure VW fanboys will be glad to point them out.-end
 
VW haters are mired in the past. VW improved it's reliability.
Recommending Hyundai for it's quality over VW is so ironic in the overall context it is almost beyond funny to absurd.
 
The below commentary from Warren Brown column is relevant.
 
-from Warren Brown column-
Baltimore, Md.: I've seen you recommending the VW Jetta TDI for the past several weeks now, and after taking one on a test drive, I'm now really interested in buying one. However, many people have emphatically told me to steer clear of VWs, citing numerous reliability and maintenance problems they've had over the years. Has VW taken any steps to address these problems for the '09/'10 models?
 
Warren Brown: Reputations. Good ones are easily lost. Bad ones tend to hang around long after things have changed. At VW, particularly in the mid-Atlantic region in the matter of maintenance and repairs, things have changed for the better. The Jetta TDI is a darned good car now backed by a company that acts on the notion that "total quality" includes repair service.
-end
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Re: VW re longo2 [moparbad] by longo2
Oct 22, 2009 (6:07 pm)
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Replying to: moparbad (Oct 22, 2009 1:26 pm)

"Recommending Hyundai for it's quality over VW is so ironic in the overall context it is almost beyond funny to absurd."
 
Well mopar, sorry to say it's neither ironic, funny, or absurd, check the latest JD Power reliablity reports and see who got the better scores.
 
Just to save you some time, its Hyundai 13 out of possible 20
 
VW 8 out of possible 20
 
I wish it were the other way around, I have a Jetta TDI sitting in the garage, if you really wanted the most reliable car out there today, the reports says...Buy a Buick.
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Re: VW re longo2 [longo2] by maigre
Oct 22, 2009 (6:41 pm)
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Replying to: longo2 (Oct 22, 2009 6:07 pm)

I've had mostly good luck with my '99 Passat. It's still running pretty well, even if it goes through too much oil. But there's no getting away from the harsh realities that so many people have had to deal with in recent years. The JD Power survey numbers aren't lying. And then, there are those VW dealers...
 
I'm shopping for a new one now and am not exactly impressed with the scene at the dealers I've visited. VW's always talking about being dedicated to improving quality control, but until it's been proven over a period of at least a few years, it's all talk. And why they continue to allow their dealers to behave the way they do is beyond me. Makes it even harder to take the pronouncements about their determination to make things better seriously.
 
That said, I'm getting a Jetta TDI anyway. Originally, I wasn't going to get another VW because of all the quality and service issues. But I ended up deciding I wanted the TDI. Even though I've had a good experience (I don't take it to the dealer for service, of course), I have eyes and ears and literally nobody else I know who has had one in the years since I got mine is happy enough to stick with VW.

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