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Volkswagen TDI Models Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Re: can you use bio-diesel? [sohna99] by ruking1
Jul 26, 2009 (9:13 am)
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Replying to: sohna99 (Jul 26, 2009 9:02 am)

The answer is yes. Up to B5 has been certified by VWA to use to "maintain" the meager warranty of 3 years 36,000 miles and whatever the drive and power train warranties are.
 
You might want to do a google for some of the differences and similarities. I personally have avoided using bio diesel for 128,000 miles sans one tank of B5 that I took from Chevron on the road. While VW engines have been shown to run on WVO to B100 (modifications of course). The fact of the matter is they are designed and specified to run on D2 and with 51 cetane ratings.
 
I personally think diesel engines should be designed to specifically run on BIODIESEL, B5 to B100 and from first generation to latest generation. I am however aware that I might hold a VERY minority opinion.
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Re: can you use bio-diesel? [ruking1] by mdl3r1
Jul 26, 2009 (9:25 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 26, 2009 9:13 am)

Many of us intended/hoped/figured on using biodiesel on 2009 Jetta TDI's...only to find out that it does not really work out very well. The issue is the new DPF-Diesel Particulate Filter with the 2009 emissions system, etc.
A guy named Jason Burroughs bought a 2009 Jetta TDI with the express purpose of using only b100 from the beginning and showing viability for B100 on the 09 Jetta TDI. Sadly, the CEL(check engine light) came on and other issues came up, mainly showing the issue related to the emissions/DPF.
Jason detailed out his experiences on a forum; just google his name and Jetta TDI 2009 biodiesel and you're sure to hit it..
The Jetta does run on b100, and that's not the real issue; the extra dilution of engine oil by the extra biodiesel seeping into the crankcase and the extra damage that may happen to the engine, a topic highly techinical and debatable/still being debated, is another issue. Some have suggested just changing oil more often than the mfg recommeneded 10k miles, but the CEL light coming on and having the dealer reset it, is the problem issue, again, set off by the DPF.
And, anything beyond B5 then VW seeks to deny responsibility and rescind warranty, which is another highly debated issue....
That's all I'll say so as not to hijack this thread...only to give a brief synopsis and asnwer to sohna99 and ruking..
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2009 Jetta TDI Sedan Price Proposal by jdeluca81
Jul 27, 2009 (9:57 am)
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Hello All,
 
I'm preparing to return my leased 2006 VW Passat in the coming weeks and would like to negotiate on a VW Jetta TDI.
 
I've priced one out on the site for $27,339 including the following options:
  • Automatic Transmission
    Chrome Mirror Caps and Rear Accent Strip
    Power Sunroof and Air Deflector
    DVD Navigation
    Rear Side Airbags
    Mat Kit
    Trunk Liner

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    I am planning to start negotiations 24,605 (90% of list). Thoughts and experiences? What should I expect to pay?
     
    Thanks for any feedback.
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    Re: 2009 Jetta TDI Sedan Price Proposal [jdeluca81] by vwgreg
    Jul 27, 2009 (10:27 am)
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    Replying to: jdeluca81 (Jul 27, 2009 9:57 am)

    you have zero chance at getting a jetta tdi at $1,500 below invoice.
    perhaps ask yourself why a dealership would want that deal.
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    Re: 2009 Jetta TDI Sedan Price Proposal [vwgreg] by jdeluca81
    Jul 27, 2009 (11:18 am)
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    Replying to: vwgreg (Jul 27, 2009 10:27 am)

    I think it's well understood that $1,500 below invoice is a stretch.
     
    If I can score half of that, I'd be satisfied. I would say that its realistic given the current economic climate to expect a below invoice purchase. Wouldn't you?
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    Re: 2009 Jetta TDI Sedan Price Proposal [jdeluca81] by gagrice
    Jul 27, 2009 (11:55 am)
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    Replying to: jdeluca81 (Jul 27, 2009 11:18 am)

    You may get a good price on the Jetta Sedan TDI. I know there are about 50 available here at San Diego dealers. If you are looking at the Sportwagen, I doubt you get down to invoice. Your best bet is trading in an old clunker if you have one..
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    Re: 2009 Jetta TDI Sedan Price Proposal [gagrice] by jdeluca81
    Jul 27, 2009 (12:07 pm)
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    Replying to: gagrice (Jul 27, 2009 11:55 am)

    I hear you. I know they're doing that $500 cash rebate for clunkers, but I don't have one to trade.
     
    Was hoping to learn of additional dealer holdbacks that could get me to the negotiating table around or even below invoice.
     
    Here in Atlanta there's over 150 Jettas in stock at the Top 3 VW Dealers and I'd be willing to hike out to an additional 2 if they were pricing competitively.
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    Re: 2009 Jetta TDI Sedan Price Proposal [jdeluca81] by vwgreg
    Jul 27, 2009 (12:23 pm)
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    Replying to: jdeluca81 (Jul 27, 2009 11:18 am)

    absolutely not. the shortest deal that i would take is about $300 over invoice when i have inventory which i do not have now.
    there is no earthly reason why a dealer would take below invoice on a tdi.
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    Re: 2009 Jetta TDI Sedan Price Proposal [vwgreg] by jdeluca81
    Jul 27, 2009 (12:37 pm)
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    Replying to: vwgreg (Jul 27, 2009 12:23 pm)

    You really know how to reinforce a stereotype!
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    Re: 2009 Jetta TDI Sedan Price Proposal [jdeluca81] by vwgreg
    Jul 27, 2009 (12:44 pm)
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    Replying to: jdeluca81 (Jul 27, 2009 12:37 pm)

    if it is a bad stereotype to expact to make 3% profit on a viable item then i plead guilty.

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