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#509 of 831 Re: TDI for non-environmentalist [gagrice] by oregonboy Jun 09, 2009 (7:08 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Jun 09, 2009 4:27 pm) Diesel on average is 30 cents cheaper than regular unleaded.   Isn't that a summertime phenomenon? Replies to this message: gagrice (Jun 09, 2009 7:29 pm) sellaturcica (Jun 09, 2009 9:24 pm) m6user (Jun 10, 2009 7:18 am) ruking1 (Jun 10, 2009 7:30 am) and 3 more... moparbad (Jun 10, 2009 9:17 am) gagrice (Jun 10, 2009 9:42 am)
#510 of 831 Re: TDI for non-environmentalist [oregonboy] by gagrice Jun 09, 2009 (7:29 pm)
Replying to: oregonboy (Jun 09, 2009 7:08 pm) Works out real well as we take our driving vacations in the summer. The point being even when the price is lopsided in favor of RUG, the Jetta TDI is less expensive to drive than the gas version. People that own the new Jetta TDI and they are selling well are getting way over EPA estimates. The average TDI owner is getting over 40 MPG the average Jetta gasser is getting 25 MPG. That means when RUG is $3 per gallon diesel would have to be $4.14 per gallon to be equal. No time has diesel been that much more than RUG. Now they are reaping real benefits. Add to that a lot less CO2 being put out. Far less CO and dozens of other bad things in gasoline. I see the VW TDI as a complete winner for the environment. Replies to this message: sellaturcica (Jun 09, 2009 9:24 pm) m6user (Jun 10, 2009 7:18 am) ruking1 (Jun 10, 2009 7:30 am) m6user (Jun 10, 2009 7:43 am) and 2 more... moparbad (Jun 10, 2009 9:17 am) gagrice (Jun 10, 2009 9:42 am)
#511 of 831 Re: 09 Jetta TDI [moparbad] by dedemao Jun 09, 2009 (7:49 pm)
Replying to: moparbad (Jun 09, 2009 1:33 pm) Not sure of the dealers net cost but was given a copy of the invoice and your numbers are correct based on the invoice cost. The color I purchased was Candy White.
#512 of 831 Re: TDI for non-environmentalist [gagrice] by sellaturcica Jun 09, 2009 (9:24 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Jun 09, 2009 7:29 pm) Unfortunately here in CT that was the spread last winter before the bottom fell out of gas prices. Diesel was running at least 50% more than RUG. Diesel becomes expensive in the winter because of the use of heating oil.
#513 of 831 Jetta SportWagen TDI Incentives? by getwired Jun 10, 2009 (5:22 am)
My dealer is offering to sell me a TDI Sportwagen for invoice. Asside from dealer holdback, are there any incentives that I am unaware of that I might be missing out on. This would be a special order, not vehicle on the lot or dealer transfer.
#514 of 831 Re: TDI for non-environmentalist [gagrice] by m6user Jun 10, 2009 (7:18 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Jun 09, 2009 7:29 pm) The average TDI owner is getting over 40 MPG the average Jetta gasser is getting 25 MPG. That means when RUG is $3 per gallon diesel would have to be $4.14 per gallon to be equal. No time has diesel been that much more than RUG   I think you may be exaggerating some. Are you talking avgs? I don't think "the average TDI" averages over 40 mpg unless the average TDI owner only drives on the freeway and if that's the case then compare it to a gasser that does the same. I think most of the 2.5 gasser drivers get wll over the EPA hwy estimate on straight hwy trips. I'm all for explaining the attributes of D2 but lets keep it real.   Also, last winter the price of D2 was over a dollar more than RUG in Chicago area. I think I actually posted a comment about it on this forum. Can't remember if it was $1.14 more but darn close. Replies to this message: ruking1 (Jun 10, 2009 7:30 am) m6user (Jun 10, 2009 7:43 am) ruking1 (Jun 10, 2009 7:47 am) and 1 more... moparbad (Jun 10, 2009 9:17 am) gagrice (Jun 10, 2009 9:42 am)
#515 of 831 Re: TDI for non-environmentalist [m6user] by ruking1 Jun 10, 2009 (7:30 am)
Replying to: m6user (Jun 10, 2009 7:18 am) Well I happen to know Gagrice does not have the 2009 VW Jetta TDI (JSW would be his pick if he did) but a range of 39 to 45 mpg is what we are getting and with the additional variable of... 4 drivers.   The car has only 6800 miles and it has been run in the herky jerky break in style, (as per TDI specific procedures per TDI web site) The GPS when it is... ON... says.... I did not exceed 90 mph.   A 2003 TDI Jetta gets 48-52 mpg in a daily commute. The worst was 44 mpg in 300 miles of stop and go Las Vegas downtown and strip driving with the A/C blasting (mere 102 degrees or so) 4 people in the vehicle. (taxicab ish) The best is 62 mpg.   I think all you have to do is the math. If you don't want to do the math, I have posted real world results on other thread sites. At the time, ( per mile driven) RUG cost 82% MORE. Prices of D2 RUG to PUG of course vary ALL the time, and in relationship to each other. Replies to this message: m6user (Jun 10, 2009 7:43 am) ruking1 (Jun 10, 2009 7:47 am) m6user (Jun 10, 2009 7:52 am)
#516 of 831 Re: TDI for non-environmentalist [ruking1] by m6user Jun 10, 2009 (7:43 am)
Replying to: ruking1 (Jun 10, 2009 7:30 am) You're right, I was referring to the 2009 Jetta TDI and I can see where using the earlier models would make the comparison closer. I guess the 2009 model is bringing the "average" down a bit. Replies to this message: ruking1 (Jun 10, 2009 7:47 am) m6user (Jun 10, 2009 7:52 am)
#517 of 831 Re: TDI for non-environmentalist [m6user] by ruking1 Jun 10, 2009 (7:47 am)
Replying to: m6user (Jun 10, 2009 7:43 am) Lets see the 2009 has 55% more hp and 53% more torque... what would be the contrast on a gasser undergoing this same change /"upgrade"?   Since I drive both, I am a tad "sitting" on the fence. I like the fuel mileage of the 2003, but just LOVE the torque difference on the 2009. So for the power difference, (39-45 mpg vs 48-52 mpg is) not a bad compromise. I dare say, either is better than... most vehicles !!?? Either is better than "like model" gasser Jetta's.   The other truth is the 2009 is much more "BMW like" than the 2003. Part of this translates to the 2009 VW Jetta TDI... weighing more; ( +335 #'s).   A rule of thumb is 1 mpg per 100#'s (plus+ or minus-).   Right there structurally,minus - 3.35 mpg. So really, it is not so much the additional hp/torque, as the ...weight. Replies to this message: m6user (Jun 10, 2009 7:52 am)
#518 of 831 Re: TDI for non-environmentalist [ruking1] by m6user Jun 10, 2009 (7:52 am)
Replying to: ruking1 (Jun 10, 2009 7:47 am) Gee, let's see, I would expect the mpg to go down some on either. I didn't say there wasn't a good reason for the decrease in mpg just that it's there and will reduce the average mpg for the "average TDI driver".

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