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Volkswagen TDI Models Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Re: Costco [2newonesfor09] by cosmo
Jun 09, 2009 (3:28 pm)
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Replying to: 2newonesfor09 (Jun 05, 2009 5:03 pm)

I'm guessing that you are breaking your TDI in correctly by driving in sport mode. In sport mode, the transmission will downshift when you let off the accelerator. After the initial break in period, try the drive mode and you will notice that it coasts nicely. Coasting in neutral is illegal in most states. Enjoy your good buy.
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TDI for non-environmentalist by sellaturcica
Jun 09, 2009 (3:37 pm)
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Not particularily interested in biodiesel or saving the world- am interested in a competent, good handling car that happens to get pretty great fuel mileage. Drove one and it seemed very tight, was good handling, and had a nice interior and gearbox. Basically, I liked the car. I happen to live in CT, which exempts the TDI from sales tax because of it's mileage. So The federal government is issuing a 1300 tax credit and CT will save me 1200-1400, making the TDI probably cheaper than the gas Jetta. What am I missing, how is this not a no brainer?
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Re: TDI for non-environmentalist [sellaturcica] by ruking1
Jun 09, 2009 (4:20 pm)
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Replying to: sellaturcica (Jun 09, 2009 3:37 pm)

Ah, it is a no brainer. , It is best to stay with D2, and skip the biodiesel, B5 to B100. If I read the warranty correctly, it can be revoked past B5. This is sort of weird in that even with gassers, a bad tank (full) is never guaranteed anyway.
 
The regulatory agencies are really anti biodiesel despite the Federal mandate for alternative fuels. Not surprisingly also biodiesel 0 to 5 ppm is factorially cleaner than RUG to PUG 30 ppm . For arguments sake, RUG to PUG is 30 x to 6 x dirtier. They basically make the regulations so onerous as to border on economic insanity and then try to come across like an un bias referee. It is interesting to note that no PAST or current 50 state legal diesel is specified to run on bio diesel from say B6 to B100.
 
For that matter they are anti diesel, even as diesel is the backbone of the whole economic, logistical systems.
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Re: TDI for non-environmentalist [sellaturcica] by gagrice
Jun 09, 2009 (4:27 pm)
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Replying to: sellaturcica (Jun 09, 2009 3:37 pm)

That sounds like a great deal. California does nothing for those that buy fuel efficient vehicles. Tax on a new Jetta in CA will be about $2300. Makes buying used from an individual much more tempting. I would grab one while the discounts are being offered. Diesel on average is 30 cents cheaper than regular unleaded.
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Re: TDI for non-environmentalist [gagrice] by oregonboy
Jun 09, 2009 (7:08 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 09, 2009 4:27 pm)

Diesel on average is 30 cents cheaper than regular unleaded.
 
Isn't that a summertime phenomenon?
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Re: TDI for non-environmentalist [oregonboy] by gagrice
Jun 09, 2009 (7:29 pm)
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Replying to: oregonboy (Jun 09, 2009 7:08 pm)

Works out real well as we take our driving vacations in the summer. The point being even when the price is lopsided in favor of RUG, the Jetta TDI is less expensive to drive than the gas version. People that own the new Jetta TDI and they are selling well are getting way over EPA estimates. The average TDI owner is getting over 40 MPG the average Jetta gasser is getting 25 MPG. That means when RUG is $3 per gallon diesel would have to be $4.14 per gallon to be equal. No time has diesel been that much more than RUG. Now they are reaping real benefits. Add to that a lot less CO2 being put out. Far less CO and dozens of other bad things in gasoline. I see the VW TDI as a complete winner for the environment.
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Re: 09 Jetta TDI [moparbad] by dedemao
Jun 09, 2009 (7:49 pm)
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Replying to: moparbad (Jun 09, 2009 1:33 pm)

Not sure of the dealers net cost but was given a copy of the invoice and your numbers are correct based on the invoice cost. The color I purchased was Candy White.
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Re: TDI for non-environmentalist [gagrice] by sellaturcica
Jun 09, 2009 (9:24 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 09, 2009 7:29 pm)

Unfortunately here in CT that was the spread last winter before the bottom fell out of gas prices. Diesel was running at least 50% more than RUG. Diesel becomes expensive in the winter because of the use of heating oil.
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Jetta SportWagen TDI Incentives? by getwired
Jun 10, 2009 (5:22 am)
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My dealer is offering to sell me a TDI Sportwagen for invoice. Asside from dealer holdback, are there any incentives that I am unaware of that I might be missing out on. This would be a special order, not vehicle on the lot or dealer transfer.
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Re: TDI for non-environmentalist [gagrice] by m6user
Jun 10, 2009 (7:18 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 09, 2009 7:29 pm)

The average TDI owner is getting over 40 MPG the average Jetta gasser is getting 25 MPG. That means when RUG is $3 per gallon diesel would have to be $4.14 per gallon to be equal. No time has diesel been that much more than RUG
 
I think you may be exaggerating some. Are you talking avgs? I don't think "the average TDI" averages over 40 mpg unless the average TDI owner only drives on the freeway and if that's the case then compare it to a gasser that does the same. I think most of the 2.5 gasser drivers get wll over the EPA hwy estimate on straight hwy trips. I'm all for explaining the attributes of D2 but lets keep it real.
 
Also, last winter the price of D2 was over a dollar more than RUG in Chicago area. I think I actually posted a comment about it on this forum. Can't remember if it was $1.14 more but darn close.

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