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Re: Jetta TDI Prices Below Invoice [ruking1]
by colloquor
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May 28, 2009 (11:55 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (May 28, 2009 11:45 am)
There would be more new diesel owners, at least from those who visit Edmunds.com, if historical posters would be more helpful to novices, rather than condescending. A little help in a good faith manner goes a long way.
Personally, I know of quite a few people considering diesels for the first time. For one who's spent quite a bit of time in Europe, this is a good thing.
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Re: Jetta TDI Prices Below Invoice [colloquor]
by ruking1
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May 28, 2009 (12:00 pm)
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Replying to: colloquor (May 28, 2009 11:55 am)
..."What does the mathematics tell you? Yet INXS of 98% chose the 2 x to 6 x dirtier fuel...... "
Let's see, I ask a question, which gets no answer. Then I tell you the answer. Then I tell you the statistics. Does the truth seem condescending?
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Re: Jetta TDI Prices Below Invoice [bvdj84]
by ruking1
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May 28, 2009 (12:12 pm)
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Replying to: bvdj84 (May 28, 2009 11:43 am)
"With it being a diesel engine, the torque seems like its pretty strong. Stronger than the regular 2.0T? That would be fun! Worth it. "
The 2009 TDI is 140 hp and 236 # ft of torque. The EPAs are 30/41/34 and29/40/33 mpg. The 2009 2.0T (turbo) is 200 hp and 207# ft of torque. So yes app 14% more torque than the 2.0 T. The EPA's are 22/29/25 mpg. I also believe PUG is required.
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Re: Jetta TDI Prices Below Invoice [ruking1]
by m6user
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May 28, 2009 (12:13 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (May 28, 2009 12:00 pm)
Does the truth seem condescending?
Sometimes it can be depending on how you say it.
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Re: Jetta TDI Prices Below Invoice [m6user]
by ruking1
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May 28, 2009 (12:17 pm)
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Replying to: m6user (May 28, 2009 12:13 pm)
..."It's not your job to answer every question or to police this thread." ...
Indeed I agree and I didn't nor did I police the thread.
..."Sometimes it can be depending on how you say it. "...
Well that might be an explanation why the public is so fond of well told.... lies.
see msg #7673 in "Diesel In The News " for the well debated "but RUG per gal is almost always cheape than D2" one.
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That's my job...
by kyfdx HOST
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May 28, 2009 (5:25 pm)
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Let's stick to pricing..
I know there are a half-dozen other threads to bore each other with diesel information..
thanks,
kyfdx
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Re: Jetta TDI Prices Below Invoice [m6user]
by oregonboy
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May 28, 2009 (7:13 pm)
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Replying to: m6user (May 28, 2009 12:13 pm)
Don't worry about it. Some posters are always confusing. It is not necessarily condescension. I scroll past w/o reading.
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Re: Jetta TDI Prices Below Invoice [oregonboy]
by ruking1
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May 28, 2009 (7:25 pm)
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Replying to: oregonboy (May 28, 2009 7:13 pm)
There is not much confusing about, its a great time to buy a passenger diesel. Of course there is a lot of fear..... in the over all market.
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Re: Jetta TDI Prices Below Invoice [ruking1]
by bvdj84
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May 29, 2009 (4:54 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (May 28, 2009 7:25 pm)
I am going to try to test drive a TDI today when my car goes in the shop. I really think it could be a good car for me. I do mostly highly, so I should achieve some pretty good mileage. Also, I really want to feel out the torque in the car. That is what really attracted me to the 2.0T gas, it was so much fun! I plan to get the car in red, tint the windows a bit, and it will be one sharp looking car! I really like the DSG option. Though, I probably wouldn't use it all the time, but if it is higher quality it might be more of use, rather than the wanna be shift options on some cars. On them, I would rather not use the option. They claim the DSG is pretty darned smooth.
I will get a quote.
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Re: Jetta TDI Prices Below Invoice [bvdj84]
by ruking1
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May 29, 2009 (6:22 am)
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Replying to: bvdj84 (May 29, 2009 4:54 am)
While the host has reminded us this is a pricing thread, let us know your impressions about the car and of course pricing, if you happen to decide to start negotiations. This is an excellent road car. It is also good for highway commutes of a half an hour or more.
It was not too long ago (118,000 miles) I was debating the pluses and minuses about paying a 246. premium (over a 1.8 T gasser). Of course the 2009 app 1,000 premium was not a welcomed addition. However the IRS (/VW) has sweetened the deal with the $1,300 clean diesel tax CREDIT. So really it is app minus - 200 cheaper . Also the mpg is 25 combined vs 33 combined. In a highway commute mode, three drivers get a range of 39-45. Since it is in an "initial" break in stage till at least 10,000 miles (first oil change) I am more concerned with good/correct break in than good mpg. So a recent 2300 mile R/T with 3 people and trunk packed to the gills, in the herky jerky break in style yielded an over all 43.5 mpg.
While it is a DSG, I would have been just as happy with a 6 speed manual. Well, might have been happier with a manual ,as it will probably be cheaper to fix and last longer (old 2003 clutch life expectancy of 400,000 miles)
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