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Volkswagen TDI Models Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Manual or Automatic by aalsherri
Nov 16, 2008 (1:07 pm)
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I drove manual for over 15 years then started driving autos. I like the convenience and practicality of auto trans especially in town driving. I saw many buyers looking for manual. What are the advantages of the manual in terms of durability, reliability, and longivity over the automatic transmission? I know very little about the German made automatic transmissions. The Japanese auto trans are reliable.
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Re: Manual or Automatic [aalsherri] by whobodym
Nov 17, 2008 (6:38 am)
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Replying to: aalsherri (Nov 16, 2008 1:07 pm)

If you are specifically talking about the 2006+ Jetta TDi, bear in mind that the"DSG" automatic transmission is completely different from conventional automatic transmissions. It is more like a conventional manual transmission, but with two separate servo-contolled clutches. It does not have a torque converter. From my car mag reading, the DSG has an excellent reputation for driveability and efficient performance but I would imagine its durability and dependability are just beginning to be known. Jetta 6MT transmissions are ordinary stuff technology wise (which is not a bad thing). And if you really want to get confused, Jetta 2.5's do have conventional auto transmissions, and they (the transmissions) are made in Japan.
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Re: Manual or Automatic [aalsherri] by mariobgoode
Nov 17, 2008 (8:27 am)
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Replying to: aalsherri (Nov 16, 2008 1:07 pm)

Disclaimer: I am not an expert, an engineer, or an investor in either technology.
 
I had been driving for 40+ years with a stick/manual and would prefer it to an automatic, but that is a personal preference. Sometimes I would drive an automatic but never had the chance to directly compare durability, reliability or longevity. I have never had problems with manual transmission, which by itself is low-maintenance (no transmission fluid to replenish,etc.but that could be because I was just lucky.
 
I drove both Japanese (Toyota, Datsun, Nissan) and German (Audi, BMW, VW) cars, and while I prefer the Germans, I don't think they have any significant advantage over the Japanese makes in those terms.
 
I drove my second Audi for 11 years (110K miles+) and my one and only Nissan for 12 years (120K miles+) without any problem with their manual transmissions. Your experience may not be similar, as these are mechanical things that can break for any reason.
 
Good luck in your search. You may also want to consult an automative engineer for a better idea. Me, I don't care. I buy what I like to drive.
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Re: TDI surplus [jayrider] by pengwin
Nov 18, 2008 (5:38 pm)
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Replying to: jayrider (Nov 13, 2008 2:43 pm)

the tax credit is for the first 60,000 sold, after that its 1/2 the value.
 
that said, im not really sure if a TDI is a good choice. Diesel prices seem to be more erratic than gasoline. Maybe i'll go with a wolfsburg.
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Re: Manual or Automatic [mariobgoode] by pengwin
Nov 18, 2008 (5:39 pm)
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Replying to: mariobgoode (Nov 17, 2008 8:27 am)

i know manuals are thought to be more reliable because there are less parts which usually means less things to go wrong but there is also a lot of human error which can cause manuals to need repair. With an automatic it's fairly hard to screw it up....
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price paid jetta tdi loyal by chebella82
Nov 19, 2008 (10:43 pm)
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Just wanted to post that i just bought a new jetta tdi loyal for 23025 + tt&l = 24750 at a houston VW dealership. (Sticker was 24190). they had 5 loyal's in stock at the time. Just wanted to let people know that you dont have to pay MSRP, they just want you to think you have to.
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Re: TDI surplus [pengwin] by hlcastelo
Nov 20, 2008 (5:08 am)
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Replying to: pengwin (Nov 18, 2008 5:38 pm)

Question- If the vehicle is leased by a local bank, who gets the credit? The user is the person who leases vehicle and should not be the bank.
 
Or is the credit lost?
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Re: price paid jetta tdi loyal [chebella82] by redvw
Nov 20, 2008 (6:33 am)
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Replying to: chebella82 (Nov 19, 2008 10:43 pm)

What is the difference between the TDI, and the TDI Loyal edition?
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Re: TDI surplus [hlcastelo] by kyfdx HOST
Nov 20, 2008 (8:46 am)
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Replying to: hlcastelo (Nov 20, 2008 5:08 am)

If it's leased.. no one gets the credit..
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Manuals are always more reliable by ksmigel
Nov 22, 2008 (10:34 pm)
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Any modern manual transmission should last at least 80k-100k miles before any new parts, mainly the clutch, need to be replaced. There are fewer parts, which means there are fewer things to go wrong, versus an automatic transmission.
 
Automatic transmissions are among the most problematic components of any vehicle, regardless of the origin. Both Honda and Toyota had massive recalls on two of their best selling cars because of problems with their automatic transmissions.
 
If you know how to drive a manual properly, and change your gear oil appropriately (I use redline), you should easily be able to go 100,000+ miles with no other maintenance or repair costs with a manual.
 
Cheers
 
Don

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