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Volkswagen TDI Models Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Re: TDI $1200 OVER MSRP [scrum] by mgwashburn
Sep 14, 2005 (6:54 pm)
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Replying to: scrum (Aug 25, 2005 12:01 pm)

The Dealership has every right to be "slimy" on the price of a TDI. I was on a 3-6 month waiting list for a Toyota Prius (Tampa Bay, Fl) where the price was jacked up to $30,000+ for the privilege of owning one. At the VW dealership I had to only wait a week to get a 2006 Golf GLS TDI for $21,000. I have driven both and now that I am running the VW on $1.75 per gallon BioDiesel, I can say that it was a much better buy.
 
btw - 100hp vs 150hp is not what matters...try Torque. At almost 180Lbs of torque compared to a gas engine, I can crease past just about any car on the road in 1/2 sec. Don't forget that HP means nothing in real life driving...Torque is what give you that neck snapping pull to quickly get around those pesky slow drivers...
 
marc
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Re: TDI $1200 OVER MSRP [mgwashburn] by gagrice
Sep 14, 2005 (8:25 pm)
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Replying to: mgwashburn (Sep 14, 2005 6:54 pm)

Welcome to the forum. Interesting experience. You should post over in Diesels & hybrids. Maybe save some others the pain of overpaying for a Prius when they can get a great little diesel.
 
ruking1, "Hybrids & Diesels: Deals or Duds?" #208, 14 Sep 2005 6:16 pm!make=CATS&model=Hybrid&ed_makeindex=.ef7fe1d
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2004 TDI w/ 10,280 miles by bruceleecc
Sep 15, 2005 (3:31 pm)
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What do you think? A good price would be say... $18,000? With AWD $19,000?
 
I'm going to go check it out tonight, am curious if it is a returned lease car and why it was returned.
 
Any thoughts on whether to get an 04 vs. 05 (and save a few thousand) or a TDI vs. a 1.8L? I would get an auto either way, since I don't drive manuals.
 
Thanks.
 
Should add this is at a certified dealer.
 
Also, it's in California. Can I drive this guy around for a few months before I move to Chicago??
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Re: 2004 TDI w/ 10,280 miles [bruceleecc] by dl7265
Sep 15, 2005 (5:47 pm)
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Replying to: bruceleecc (Sep 15, 2005 3:31 pm)

There is no AWD diesel in the US for starters. I don't know the Cali market. My coworker has a 2004 tdi w 35k miles and has been offered 21k here in TX. Unfortunatly the price of Diesel change by the moment. Personally id wait until they drop more. Lots of people buy them on a whim ,and don't like them ect and you can find a better deal. At least in my area. Btw gas has went from $3.33 here to $2.50 in the last week.Hope that trend continues.
good luck,
DL
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Re: 2004 TDI w/ 10,280 miles [dl7265] by bruceleecc
Sep 15, 2005 (8:38 pm)
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Replying to: dl7265 (Sep 15, 2005 5:47 pm)

The TDI was a hoax, they mis-labeled it online and when i got to the dealer, no car. Ah well...
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No TDI for me by billmd
Sep 15, 2005 (9:45 pm)
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I have been looking, researching and test driving TDI's for the past month. I've been laughed at, snickered at, etc by high and mighty VW sales people simply for asking to see a TDI. These things are not that valuable. Do the math. Unless you are driving a tremendous amount of miles they are not cost effective. I went out tonight and bought a fully loaded, sharp looking and comfortable Hyundai Sonata for $6000 less than the cheapest VW TDI that I priced. And I didn't have to wait 3 months to get it. In 60000 miles (5years) I will burn about 800 more gallons in the Sonata. Thats $2400 at $3 per gallon. I'm still $3600 to the good with the Sonata and I don't have to mess with Diesel or Canola Oil. This TDI thing is almost cultish.
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Re: No TDI for me [billmd] by bruceleecc
Sep 15, 2005 (10:36 pm)
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Replying to: billmd (Sep 15, 2005 9:45 pm)

yeah but you own a hyundai sonata...
 
hm i was actually about to look at one. I mentioned that to the VW sales people and they just laughed at me. Seriously, they just started laughing. They didn't laugh when I said I just got back from the honda dealer.
 
But actually, i will still probably go look.
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Re: No TDI for me [billmd] by kyfdx HOST
Sep 16, 2005 (2:42 am)
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Replying to: billmd (Sep 15, 2005 9:45 pm)

I'm not singing the praises of the TDI, but you've left resale value out of the equation... What is a 5-year old Sonata going to be worth, compared to a 5-year old TDI?
 
1) Depreciation
 
2) Financing
 
3) Maintenance
 
4) Insurance
 
5) Fuel
 
Those are the costs related to owning a car.... The only clear advantage the Sonata has over the VW is financing... as you would borrow less money to purchase it.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: No TDI for me [kyfdx] by billmd
Sep 16, 2005 (5:18 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Sep 16, 2005 2:42 am)

You are correct about the "current" resale value of the TDI. I probably won't be trading for at least 5-7 years, maybe longer. By that time I doubt that VW will have a corner on the diesel or high mpg market. Its already happening. What will that do to the resale value then, who knows, but I will bet it won't be anything like it is now. The Sonata that I bought is warranted for 5yrs/60000 bumper to bumper and 10yr/100k drivetrain. That means a lot to me in addition to the safety rating, comfort etc. I'm not pushing the Hyundai brand here, that's just the direction that I went. I am saying that when you try to lower your driving costs that you have to look at more than just mpg.

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