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#87 of 106 New to this forum
Feb 27, 2008 (5:22 pm)
I'm new to the wagon forum and appreciate knowing someone is tracking this topic. I have been following the TSX/Euro Accord wagon for many months now and would love to have one, Last week I was in touch with one of my clients who happens to work at American Honda Motor. He suggested to me that Honda has plans to unveil a wagon in the states based on the TSX platform. Can anyone validate this? And today I spoke to a local car dealer's attorney here in Columbus and he said these European models won't pass emmisions standards and the crash tests. It would require expensive re-tooling and the manufacturer just won't sell enough of these models to make it worth their while. Any comments would be appreciated.
#88 of 106 Re: JDM Honda Odyssey [ktong]
Jun 01, 2008 (9:42 pm)
I can not agree with you more! It will make a nice and roomy wagon. If they think it is too crumped, they could take the 3rd row seats for the U.S.
BTW, I really do not understand why Honda consistently market different cars under same names for different regions. It is so confusing.
#89 of 106 Re: JDM Honda Odyssey [atuchan]
Jun 26, 2008 (11:16 pm)
"BTW, I really do not understand why Honda consistently market different cars under same names for different regions. It is so confusing."
It is confusing if you're planning to ship vehicles from one market to another. Otherwise, the buyers in each market are definitely not confused about the offerings of Honda.
Honda is still offering trucks in north America, which sucks. Their offerings gained a few dimensions in size, too, which is probably a thrill-a-minute in the current environment of $4/gallon gasoline. (But that's another thread.)
#90 of 106 Ford Taurus Wagon Fan
Jun 06, 2009 (11:34 pm)
I'm on my third Taurus wagon now and will hang in there until something resembling this car is offered. It is a car with all of the comforts of a car, great gas mileage, good reliability, safety, enormous power and serious space. What more do people need?
#92 of 106 Acura TSX Wagon
Sep 26, 2009 (10:22 am)
A little quiet here lately so I will spice things up with this
I have been a long time Honda fan. I currently own an S2000. I have always loved the high revving engines from Honda and sporty suspensions and driving characteristics. I think Honda has missed the boat here. They had a perfect platform to fill the need for those looking for an alternative to SUV's. My perfect wagon would be like to the old Mazda Protege5 in looks and handling with one of Honda's K20 engines that get at least 30 mpg. Currently the only thing that comes close is the Mazda3 hatch. A great car but I think Honda could make a better wagon. My current wagon is a 2002 Forester which works perfect for my 2 greyhounds but is no fun to drive. I like the Impreza/WRX but not the weight and fuel penalty that come with the AWD which I only really need maybe 6 times in a year.
#93 of 106 Try the VW TDI Sportswagen
Oct 10, 2009 (4:46 pm)
Got mine last January (6M) and had been going to the pumps less often. With a good technique, you can get more than 50 mpg highway. A full tank takes me over 550 miles. Diesel costs about the same as RUG, if not lower.
Lots of torque, and you'll soon forget you're not driving a gas engine. Hills and mountains, no problem. I climb the Pocono Mountains in PA on 6th gear, no sweat. Not the fastest car, I agree, but who needs speeding tickets anyway? 75 is plenty fast.
Am looking to buy another diesel wagon, manual as well, but there's not much choice around. Used to buy Audis but they're not offering AWD with manual transmission anymore. Their only diesel is the FWD A3, but no manual. A BMW 335D is selling for nearly 50K, well-equipped (RWD only, sorry), and hate their "only run-flat tires" stance. Don't like SUV's or cross-overs, even if they are diesels. Been there, done that. I noticed some posts complaining about the lack of Japanese wagons, which I could consider. Wagons don't sell, huh? Did you ever seen a VW TDI wagon on a lot sitting for a long time? Had to wait over six months for mine, and had to pay sticker. You might have a better luck.
#94 of 106 What are they thinking?
Oct 19, 2009 (10:59 am)
What are the options for an AWD station wagon with a manual now? BMW or Subaru flat 4? That's it?
The writing has been on the wall for a while. The 70s gas reality slap started the smaller car on the US roads. And while a lot of people continue to have their heads shoved up the tailpipe of an SUV, it's time is at end.
What's with Audi going exclusively upmarket? What happened to the availability of a solid AWD krautrocket wagon with a manual?
I guess as a nation we'll continue to be deluded about being upscale. As for me, all I want is a solid 6 cylinder AWD manual wagon.
Nov 26, 2009 (2:26 pm)
i dont think crossovers are the same as wagons. Just look at their mpg and weight. I'd like to see hyundai sonata wagon, ford fusion, honda accord and toyota camry... to compete with the more expensive european brands wagons (audi, vw, volvo)
#96 of 106 The Honda Accord wagon comes!
Feb 28, 2010 (10:16 pm)
Except, well, it's an Acura TSX. Not that I believe that there is anything particularly bad about the brand (unlike what many others think, the grille isn't offensive to me). The price range immediately puts it out of my hands.
For us ordinary mortals, Honda presents a
SUV lite crossover called the Crosstour. It has a chunky grill, weighs nearly two tons ($4/gallon, here we come!), and a rear only a pro wrestler would love (Hogan delivers the Atomic Butt Hike (tm)! the opponent signals submission! It's all over!!!!).
One day, they'll get it.
C'mon American auto market, there's a almost completely unfilled hole in the affordable midsize wagon market that needs to be filled!