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Wagons What Wagon Would You Like To See Offered?
95 messages, Last post on Nov 26, 2009 at 1:26 PM
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Replying to: klh3 (Mar 19, 2005 9:23 am) |
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Replying to: kcram (Oct 07, 2004 9:28 am) A Japanese Station Wagon (or at least a wagon with Jap. reliability) with a high quality interior, it must have the seat comfort of a volvo, a usable third row seat and a turbo diesel engine. Are you listening........ somebody build me one!
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Replying to: dudleyr (Apr 14, 2005 6:22 pm) |
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Replying to: freeflyfreak (Nov 02, 2005 11:07 pm) well now you're just being unreasonable. Might as well ask for gold bars in the trunk while you're at it. 
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I have to agree with a lot of the posts here that an Accord/Camry wagon would be very well received now. I've heard that the Accord wagon, when it was available, did poorly in sales, but I think that as much of a timing problem as anything else. In the 90's the SUV market was getting into full swing and everybody had to have one. SUV's were also the "exciting" option for those who found mini-vans too uncool. More and more folks are waking up to the reality that both SUV's and mini-vans are expensive animals to feed and are looking for something that can transport people and cargo at a more economical pace. 3 years ago we were looking for a wagon with decent gas milage and a reasonable sized cargo area at a reasonable price. What was available? Subaru wagons are the right size, but on the expensive side. Same for Saab Audi, Volvo, BMW and VW. The Mazda Protoge5 and the Toyota Matrix were attractive, reliable, and priced right, but had very small cargo areas. I hadn't heard good things about Saturn (don't mean to offend). One that really stood out was the Focus wagon. I was very nervous about buying Ford since I had been with Toyotas and Hondas for so long, but the mileage was good, the cargo was roomy and the price was right (I got a 2002 se wagon for 14,200). I figured with the money I saved over a Subaru, it could break down quite a few times and still be more economical. So far, we've been happy with it. Came with a boatload of options, and with standard shift, it performs very well; we've got 80k on it now. The Automatic we drove was much louder on the highway and much less responsive. Still, if Honda or Toyota had offered a wagon, I would have bought it then, and I would now! An Accord/Camry wagon offered in both 4 cylinder (my choice) and 6 would sell well here, I'm sure... the new 2.2 liter diesel engine available in Europe would also be very desirable. Mitsubishi was offering a decent size 4cyl. wagon last year (Sportback) that I was excited about, but that was pulled in '05. Why? I think that was due more to lack of awareness than anything else... did anyone ever see a commercial for one? Anyway, I vote for a suite of Civic/Accord & Camry/Corolla wagons! Yeah! (it's funny what I get excited about now that I'm 40...)
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Our Wagon Wishlist is filled...all these Crossover wagons are pouring in!  1. 2006/7 Jeep Compass (A Subaru WRX Rally type vehicle) 2. 2006 Dodge Caliber (AWD, 5 sp manual, VW Diesel engine!) Shares a platform w/ Mitsubishi. 3. 2006 Chevrolet HHR (Wonderfully priced Cobalt wagon!) 4. 2006 Chevrolet Malibu Maxx SS. (Great wagon. Wow!) 5. Saab's Sport Combi. (9-3 based) 6. Ford's Freestyle. (Such a HUGE improvement!) Still wish VW would of done a NEW Jetta Wagon!  Apparently the nod was given to the new crossover SUV thingy instead. 1. Cadillac's SRX is great. Can tow 4,250lbs! 2. BMW has released a 3 and 5 series wagon. 3. Audi's excellent A3 also. 4. VW Passat Estate is due very soon. So, these new wagons should be enough to fulfill anyone's wishlist! Enjoy the Holiday... |
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| I realized I would really want the NA-market Accord be morphed in a 6-seater "estate" wagon - if Mazda can offer a miniminivan based on compact Focus/Mazda3, I would think the one based on the Accord should be better in most respects - a little roomier, stronger 4-cylinder engine, better reputation and resale, lower insurance and repair costs and (arguably) better reliability. | |
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Replying to: jayguy (Dec 05, 2005 12:31 pm) |
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It is good to see that I am not the only one who wants the all around versatility, comfort and economy of a good midsized wagon. Here it is 2006 and there are still very few choices. The Acura TSX sedan is an outstanding value in it's class for the level of performance, equipment, reliability record, etc. I would write a check for a wagon version today! I drove the New Passat Wagon and it is a decent driving car, but the level of electronic gimmicks VW has put on there (push button electric parking brake!) along with VW's recent spotty reliability gives me great concern. I dont' want to spend big bucks for a new car only to develop a close relationship with the service manager. I already have a family. The Volvo V70 is the right size, but gets expensive when you put decent equipment on it. Volvo reliability isn't in the gutter like VW, but isn't great either. Acura should be able to make a TSX wagon easily as the base vehicle is the non-US market Accord and is already built as a wagon for the rest of the world. The TSX is already a relatively low volume niche vehicle, so please give us a wagon! The problem with the final generation Accord and Camry wagon was that Honda and Toyota cheaped out and use the sedan rear door on the wagon, which then caused them to have this huge blind-spot creating sail shape in metal behind the rear door. Subaru could also give up it's religious dedication to four wheel drive and offer a better fuel economy, lower priced FWD option. All in all, things are not much better in the wagon market today then they were when this thread started  . John
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WRX STi Wagon and the Forester STi. A Subie purist. PS I hope Subaru never strays from their AWD roots. Let Toyota and Honda have the FWD piece of the pie. |
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