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Replying to: erichochman (Oct 02, 2006 10:48 am) (2) Overpaying? - I am not up to speed on used car values for the 911, so I can't really comment on the fairness of the $48k asking price. I don't think it sounds like a "steal" since, it is roughly 64% of the price of brand new base C2 (assume $75k +/- after discounts) and even more of its original price. That's not much depreciation for a 5 year old car, but with only 12,900 miles and assuming it's in pristine condition, may be a fair deal. (3) "Drawbacks on 2002 / 5 year old model?" If you are buying from a Porsche dealer, does it come with a certified warranty? This would be very valuable, I would think. In the event you are not buying from a Porsche dealer with a CPO warranty, I'd pay to have the car fully mechanically inspected by a Porsche dealer that you would use for service. You might want to consider a third party extended warranty. You shold probably replace the tires as well, if they are still original. (4) "Speed Yellow" Speed Yellow remains one of my favorite colors, even though I didn't go through with a sale/trade of my Seal Grey earlier this year. If you like the color, that should be enough. There is no reason you should have any difficulty in resale down the road because of it. Good luck.
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Replying to: redsoxgirl (Sep 30, 2006 4:00 am) To make your decision ask yourself the reason you are electing to go Porsche. Why did you enjoy the 911S? What did you like or dislike about the Turbo you drove? Was it a manual or Tip? Is the 997 a manual or Tip? Do you like attention? The turbo will draw a lot of it. Your comment "I would not trade the power of a 996TT for the ... of the 997S" The 997 Turbo has what you like, the refinement, and has more power (still has lag but much less). $2,500 off MSRP does not sound like much but you WILL receive what no one else across the country is receiving. Check Autotrader, Cars, Ebay and any other internet sites and you will find the car is more often than NOT, sold for a premium. Manhattan Porsche (in the Autotrader.com) advertised 4 in stock. I visited them on Friday and was told they did at one time have 4 in stock but as of that day they had one left on the floor waiting to be picked up and was sold for $15,000 over MSRP. Check Porsche.com and look at the inventory of 996 and 997s at various dealers East and West coast. They are not selling like last year. Read the Forum, many are receiving good discounts from MSRP on the 996s and 997s. You will NOT observe that on the Turbo! My Comment.... You want a 997, do you want power, refinement, attention and would you feel ok having something many others would love to have????????? Read the reviews, in Excellence, Motor Trend, Auto Week, Automobile, Road & Track... they compare the Turbo to the non-Turbo. Let me know what else I can tell you. I really do enjoy this car, the handling/power is unreal and it draws a lot of ENVIOUS eyes!! |
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Replying to: ifpsken (Oct 02, 2006 1:16 pm) Both the C2S and Turbo are 6-speeds - my only preference. As far as "liking attention", that isn't a factor. I actually considered a pristine 2005 GT3, but between the Speed Yellow color and rear wing, it screamed "look at me" a little too much. The main issue I am grappling with is the everyday driveability of the Turbo vs. the C2S. This will be my only car, replacing a Boxster S that came with me to Boston when I moved from Raleigh. I will have access to a friend's back up vehicle for the worst weather, but need to have a car that will be comfortable to drive 8-10k miles a year. The 997 C2S would fit that bill for me. The 996 Turbo, with it's rougher non-adjustable ride, stiff clutch, etc., would not. I view the 996 Turbo as more of a weekend/track car. So if you don't mind, please describe how you use your Turbo and how it drives compared to the 911S or 996 Turbo (if you can compare). Is it a 6-speed? Is there noticable turbo lag at low RPM's in around town driving? Would you feel comfortable putting up to 10k miles a year on it and driving it daily? FWIW, my brother (former Porsche racing team member) is encouraging me to go for the Turbo. He got me into the Porsche Performance Driving School a few years ago and claims that I would be one of a handful of drivers, male or female, that could actually use more than 50% of the capabilities of the car. But I think the same could be said of the C2S. If the daily driving capability of the 997 Turbo is as "friendly" as the C2S, I'll go for it. Unfortunately, I may not to get that answer first hand between now and Saturday. My dealer is trying to hook me with a previous buyer. |
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Replying to: habitat1 (Oct 02, 2006 12:58 pm) ERIC |
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One problem with the 997TT as the only car is the small trunk. I was a little annoyed I couldn't fit my wooden crate of wine (12 bottles) and had to dump it in the passenger side footwell. The AWD (TT and C4) 911s have a smaller trunk due to the AWD mechanism. Other than that, very user-friendly and I like the turbos being a little quieter than the regular C2/4s. Go for it. |
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Hi, all - My husband and I are looking at a new 2006 Carrera 4S, MSRP 100,640. We are ready to buy, but not in any particular rush. Basically we're looking at 2006 models in order to see what sort of discounts can be had now that the 2007s are coming in. (We're looking for a 4-year lease, so not concerned about resale implications of a model year-older car.) In our area (sf bay area, california), there do seem to be some dealers discounting 2006 C2 and c2S models quite a bit. We've heard 8-10k off is not impossible to get. The catch is, of course, that there aren't many '06s left, and most of them are cabriolets, whereas we want a coupe. Can anyone give me an idea of what type of discount to expect on an '06 C4S windowing at $10,640 (options it has are sport exhaust (I thought it sounded dumb, but now that I heard it I've got to have it!), sport design wheels, thicker sport steering wheel, sport shifter, nav, sport chrono pkg, lettered floor mats, power seats, Bose premium sound). Any idea how much profit is in there for the dealer? Would it be reasonable to think we might get $12k off? Any insights are greatly appreciated! Christina |
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Replying to: redsoxgirl (Oct 02, 2006 1:54 pm) I do not use the the Sport Mode when my wife is in the car but use it quite often when alone. I agree with W210, the luggage area is quite minimal, especially when compared to the C2S, luggage would have to be placed on the passenger side or on the jump seat behind. I also believe the C2S has a larger gas tank. My guess is that the Turbo would be as "friendly" as the C2S, it may be a bit lower in front (I have scraped my lower front spoiler a few times exit/entry to store driveways and have already ordered another spoiler). Yes, you will experience turbo lag at low rpm in around town driving, it is less than the 996 but it is still there. the drive comparison was similar to the 996 (comfort), mine is a Tip and the difference between the two lie mostly with that difference. The Tip handles the low speed Turbo boost much easier than the quick shift requirement from first to second in the manual. I probably will put close to 10,000 miles on it this year, but it will be all pleasure driving, not to and from work. |
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Can anyone recommend a rear child's car seat for a 2006 C4S? I have a 2 yr old boy who would love to take a ride in daddy's 997, but I have been unlucky in finding a car seat that can fit in the rear seat. Anyone have any recommendations? Much appreciated.
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Replying to: ifpsken (Oct 03, 2006 8:45 am) I'm curious - does your 997 Turbo ride as harshly as your friends 996 Turbo? I have a friend who turned in his 996 turbo off lease and got a 997 C2S. He let me drive it a few times before he parted with it and the big differences compared to my C2S Cab that I found were: (1) his 996 Turbo had a very stiff sport suspension that was not adjustable. Even with it's 18" wheels, it was at least as harsh - or harsher - than my 997 C2S with 19" wheels with the PASM set on "sport". The 996 actually felt like it had slightly more body roll, but every little bump that the wheels hit rattled my fillings. By contrast, my 997 set on normal PASM mode, handles our local streets quite well. I assume the 997 Turbo has the same PASM as the 997 C2S and allows you to toggle between normal and sport suspension settings? (2) his 996 Turbo clutch (aftermarket) was very hard to modulate. Even after several sessions with the car, I'd occassionally stall at start up and would do the herky jerky between 1st and 2nd almost every time. I'm sure I'd eventually get used to it, but it was pretty embarassing. I guess you can't compare, since you have a Tiptronic, but I hope the 997 Turbo clutch is similar to the C2S. My friend had his 996 turbo modified with a chip, special exhaust, clutch and other engine parts such that it put out 520+ horsepower and 520 ft lbs at the wheels. At 62, he took it to a track event and ran an 11.4+/- second quarter mile. The first time I rode in it, I actually felt pressure on my eyeballs after he floored it on an empty stretch of road. It was scary fast, but not very much fun to drive around town at subsonic speeds over imperfect roads. So how much of a dent have you put in your 10,000 miles per year of pleasure driving so far?
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Replying to: markgc4s (Oct 03, 2006 9:11 am) http://skjp.com/products/index.php?v=cat&cid=5&name=Car%20Seats should fit in the back, as it is one of the narrowest baby seat made. When your kid is over 30lbs, you can move to a booster seat, the Briax Parkway seems to work: http://www.britaxusa.net/products/360_parkway.aspx The Britax Parkway is easier to install and remove being a booster seat, but then, the Sunshine Kids seat should be safer being a convertible seat with a 5-point seatbelt.
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