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#974 of 2048
Designman is right by dweiser
Sep 30, 2006 (3:16 pm)
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I wouldn't "ask", I'd "demand" the same $7,500 discount on the TT and I might even ask for more of a discount than your present $7,500 since the TT costs more. If you'd be happy with the C2S (and who wouldn't be), play around with the dealer, see just how bad he wants to do the deal. Worst case, you get the car you ordered, sooner, and cheaper.
My 2 cents.
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997TT owner's perspective: reply to Redsoxgirl by w210
Sep 30, 2006 (11:14 pm)
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I have owned the 997TT for a month and it's really nice.
 
Not too many cars can provide such power with the amazing traction to go with it. I suppose the TT is a stick? The tiptronics apparently are very hot right now as Porsche has under-estimated the demand.
 
The dealer is correct it is very rare to get a discount on a 997TT. I say go for the TT, if it has the options and color combination you like.
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Re: What to do? / 911 Turbo [redsoxgirl] by habitat1
Oct 01, 2006 (4:54 am)
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Replying to: redsoxgirl (Sep 30, 2006 4:00 am)

On the price/discount side, from what I can tell a $2,500 discount on a Turbo might be a better deal than a $7,500 discount on a C2S. There are no dealers in the DC area that have unsold Turbos for at least 2-3 months. There are a fair number of 911's in stock, including some 2007's that could be negotiated hard on.
 
On the $40k upgrade or not question, I think that depends a lot on how much you would actually use the extra power. In my opinion, the new 997 Turbo is the best truly supercar value out there. If I'm not mistaken, it is essentially the same price or cheaper than a 996 Turbo S, with far better performance. But even if I had the extra money burning a hole in my pocket, I personally couldn't justify giving up a C2S Cab for the 911 Turbo. I press a button and the top is down, my kids are happy. I don't need advanced Skip Barber classes for that. If I was single, I might go the other way and get the 911TT (and Skip Barber).
 
P.S. Regarding Tip vs. 6-speed, I just read yet another review this month (R&T or Motor Trend) that tested both, side by side. Although the Tip was 0.1 seconds faster to 60 (3.3 vs. 3.4, I believe), the editors all preferred the 6-speed. Better downshifts, etc. This is consistent with the opinions of the lucky few I know that have driven both.
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Re: 2006 Cabriolet S by bmuir
Oct 01, 2006 (4:22 pm)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Oct 01, 2006 4:54 am)

With 2007s coming into showrooms( and my local dealer talking about how short a supply of 911s there is) what discount can you expect on a 102k 2006? Is there any disadvantage in buying out of state? Is a 911s worth the 30k more over a 2007 Boxster S being 500/hp. I am selling my 2000 Boxster and it has been a great car.
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Re: 2006 Cabriolet S [bmuir] by habitat1
Oct 02, 2006 (4:02 am)
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Replying to: bmuir (Oct 01, 2006 4:22 pm)

Discounts can vary substantially by dealer and geographic area. Last year at this time, I couldn't have gotten more than a $5k discount on a 2005 911S Cab in the immediate DC area. I went to Baltimore and got nearly double that on a car that had a few more options than I would have ordered.
 
The only disadvantage of buying out of state or out of your area is the slight loss of goodwill you might have gained if and when you need service. But the local dealer I have taken my car to for a warranty repair seemed to treat me very well, in spite of not getting the initial sale.
 
"Is a 911s worth the 30k more over a 2007 Boxster S being 500/hp. I am selling my 2000 Boxster and it has been a great car."
 
I was seriously considering a Boxster S last fall. But I have a wife and two kids that all fit in the 911S. Instead of being just my personal fun car, the 911S is our "family car" with 9,700 miles as of its one year anniversary. Hard to put a price on that. Not sure what the 500 hp is referring to, other than a 911 Turbo, which is another $35k+ on top of a 911S Cab.
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Re: 2006 Cabriolet S [habitat1] by designman
Oct 02, 2006 (5:22 am)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Oct 02, 2006 4:02 am)

But the local dealer I have taken my car to for a warranty repair seemed to treat me very well, in spite of not getting the initial sale.
 
Does he give you a loaner?
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Re: 2006 Cabriolet S [habitat1] by bmuir
Oct 02, 2006 (6:44 am)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Oct 02, 2006 4:02 am)

The 500/hp referred to was 60 more hp over the Boxster S with the car being 30,000 more. The family is all grown so no need for the rear seats. My wife thought the rear seats a negative. I guess the Carrera is always the model my heart says yes to but the Boxster is the choice of the logical side of my brain.
 
I bought the Boxster in Florida, moved to Chicago and didn't notice any difference in service. With service at 20,000 miles there aren't many services to be performed unless you have a problem.
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Re: 2006 Cabriolet S [bmuir] by habitat1
Oct 02, 2006 (7:23 am)
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Replying to: bmuir (Oct 02, 2006 6:44 am)

I missed the implied dollar sign in the $500 per horsepower difference between the Boxster S and Carerra S. But I don't think that's the metric for comparing the two models that I would recommend. They really are two very different cars, IMO, even if you don't use the back seats.
 
If I was going for a 2-seat roadster, the new 3.4 liter Boxster S would certainly be at the top of my list. But it might still be a little tough to justify over the $32k Honda S2000 that I bought in 2001. In terms of go-cart like handling, 9,000 rpm's and ease on the wallet, the Honda was tough to beat. But, there really wasn't anything out there that gave the 911 a run for it's money when I decided to go in that direction. Albeit a lot more money.
 
Good luck whatever you decide.
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2002 911 Coupe-Urgent advice sought please... by erichochman
Oct 02, 2006 (10:48 am)
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hello,
 
i have been looking for a porsche i can afford and think i may have found her.
 
i have seen a 2002 911 Carrera in Speed Yellow with lots of goodies. Bose, full leather, PSM, etc etc.
It only has 12,900 miles on it. They are asking $48,000 even. I thought wow...48 grand is not the end of the world, but before i sheel out that kind of money, I thought I could get some expert advice here.
 
Couple of questions.
 
1. 12,900 miles is almost brand new. Is it broken in yet? Can it and will it last trouble free to about 60k miles?
 
2. Am I overpaying for a 2002 model at 48 grand? ( I look at it as almost getting a new 911 FOR ONLY 48 GRAND)?
 
3. Is there any negative drawbacks from buying a 2002 model which is soon to be 5 years old as the 07's come out?
 
4. I know its preference, but it seems speed yellow is not very popular. IS this why its so reasonably priced?
 
Any other longwided thoghts you can share would be great. I thank you in advance.
 
Eric
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Re: 2002 911 Coupe-Urgent advice sought please... [erichochman] by habitat1
Oct 02, 2006 (12:58 pm)
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Replying to: erichochman (Oct 02, 2006 10:48 am)

(1) "12,900 miles and almost brand new". That's more than enough miles to be broken in, but no guarantee that it was broken in properly. Do you have all of the service records and mileage logs? One thing I'd be concerned about is whether it has sat for extended periods of time (2+ months) without being driven. According to my dealer, this is another source of the infamous "rear main seal" leak. And that's NOT something you want to deal with out of warranty. Assuming the car has just been gently, but regularly used, I would think getting another 50k miles (or more) out of it should not be a problem.
 
(2) Overpaying? - I am not up to speed on used car values for the 911, so I can't really comment on the fairness of the $48k asking price. I don't think it sounds like a "steal" since, it is roughly 64% of the price of brand new base C2 (assume $75k +/- after discounts) and even more of its original price. That's not much depreciation for a 5 year old car, but with only 12,900 miles and assuming it's in pristine condition, may be a fair deal.
 
(3) "Drawbacks on 2002 / 5 year old model?" If you are buying from a Porsche dealer, does it come with a certified warranty? This would be very valuable, I would think. In the event you are not buying from a Porsche dealer with a CPO warranty, I'd pay to have the car fully mechanically inspected by a Porsche dealer that you would use for service. You might want to consider a third party extended warranty. You shold probably replace the tires as well, if they are still original.
 
(4) "Speed Yellow" Speed Yellow remains one of my favorite colors, even though I didn't go through with a sale/trade of my Seal Grey earlier this year. If you like the color, that should be enough. There is no reason you should have any difficulty in resale down the road because of it.
 
Good luck.

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