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#819 of 2050 2003 911 Carerra Coupe by JingleJill Jul 04, 2006 (4:36 am)
Knock Knock Everyone,   I've come across a beautiful Guards Red 2003 911 Carerra Coupe. It has 11.5k miles, 6 spd, 18in light carerra alloy wheels, power seat package, xenons, heated seats, bose high end system, sports exhaust system, porsche crest in headrest, red stitching on the seats, and black mats with lettering... Price is $56k. Also is CPO'd until August 2009.   ALso, they just performed the 15k service and put new rear tires on it...   Opinions, advice, etc...   Thanks,   Stacy Replies to this message: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 04, 2006 8:14 am) habitat1 (Jul 04, 2006 11:04 am)
#820 of 2050 Re: 2003 911 Carerra Coupe [JingleJill] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Jul 04, 2006 (8:14 am)
Replying to: JingleJill (Jul 04, 2006 4:36 am) Sounds okay, retail price, not a bargain not a rip. Miles are nice.
#821 of 2050 Re: 2003 911 Carerra Coupe [JingleJill] by habitat1 Jul 04, 2006 (11:04 am)
Replying to: JingleJill (Jul 04, 2006 4:36 am) At first, it sounded like a good deal. But a friend of mine just ordered a 2007 911 Coupe, well equiped ($9,000 in options) and he's getting it for $76,000 ($6,000 +/- discount).   Now $20,000 isn't anything to sneeze at. But neither is the difference between a 4 year old 996 and a brand new 997. If it were me, I'd go with the latter, low mileage and CPO benefit notwithstanding. But I realize others look at it differently.
#822 of 2050 The new Turbo & JingleJill by nyccarguy Jul 04, 2006 (1:32 pm)
I saw a 997 911 Turbo driving around Pittsburgh this weekend. It is simply drop dead gorgeous!   JingleJill. I'm givng my advice as someone who dreams about Porsches (among other cars). Normally I'd say that $56K is A LOT of money to be spending on a used car. So the Practical side says go for a Cayman. But from what I've read, 996s are pretty solid cars. You'll have to drive it and see if YOU like it more than the Cayman. Can yuo get a bigger discount than what the red tag says?
#823 of 2050 CPO 996 by chile96 Jul 04, 2006 (1:33 pm)
I used to have a car very similar to the red one you are considering buying and I traded it in last October for $51,000 so take that what you will. Mine had about 20K miles and was in pristine condition(it was black so i HAD to be obsessive!)   My local Porsche GM confided in me that the CPO warranty is pretty crappy BUT why I got it with my turbo is that it protects you against the BIG things like trannies, rear main seal oil leaks, blown engines from blown seals, etc. I think there may be a small deductible - not sure. Just keep in mind that all scheduled maintenance MUST be documented and done on time or PCNA will find away to get out of the warranty.   Even though it's CPO'd, I can't recommend this strong enough - take the car to another Porsche dealership or an independent mechanic with extensive porsche knowlege and get a pre-purchase inspection. It'll cost you $150-200 but it's well worth it. I almost bought a CPO turbo that had some big issues. Yeah, it would have been covered by the mfr's warranty but who wants a car with issues and then having to spend time in service rather than out on the twisties??? Basically their CPO inspection does not mean anything except put new tires on it, oil or brake fluid change and a nice detail job.   ALSO, very important. Get the VIN and have the service mgr/writer run a warranty repair history on the vehicle. Any warranty repair history done in the US will show up. Don't let them tell you that they can't pull it up because they can. The service guys here are friends of mine and they have done it on several cars that I've purchased/considered purchasing. There is not a charge for that. It will give you a good idea of how "dependable" the car has been and hopefully will be.   Sorry to not just tell you go buy it but Porsche can be problematic if not taken care of so do your homework up front so you can enjoy it later   Happy to answer any other questions. Replies to this message: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 04, 2006 3:01 pm)
#824 of 2050 Re: CPO 996 [chile96] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Jul 04, 2006 (3:01 pm)
Replying to: chile96 (Jul 04, 2006 1:33 pm) The 996 is prone to rear main seal leakage, so by all means have it checked out, CPO or not. Good advice!
#825 of 2050 Thanks Everyone... by JingleJill Jul 05, 2006 (3:30 am)
Thank you for the advice everyone...   I understand having to take care of a Porsche. We have a 1986 911 Carerra Cab.   We actually went to the dealership looking at Caymans. We drove a Cayman and then drove the Red 911. We decided we should go for a 911. A 911 we would keep, I think the Cayman might get old after a while.   I agree that $56k is a lot to spend on a used car; I totally agree. But, the 911's are adictive.   We are still up in the air.   I'm thinking I should be able to do better on that price of $56k also.   Then I read where some people think I can get 10-15% off MSRP on a new one if I shop around. That is very tempting also...   If that darn Cayman had a back seat... ARGGGGHHHHHH Replies to this message: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 05, 2006 8:12 am)
#826 of 2050 Re: Thanks Everyone... [JingleJill] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Jul 05, 2006 (8:12 am)
Replying to: JingleJill (Jul 05, 2006 3:30 am) One issue to consider is that any high end car will take a further though not major depreciation hit once the NEXT iteration hits the streets in numbers, because then there's the "next new thing" out there. So new models depress the value of the model before, until the old model becomes old enough to be interesting again. Unfortunately, sellers of the last model don't want to be the first to experience this depreciation and they are perhaps priced too close to the new model. Then, people like you start comparing and going, "hmmmmm......"
#827 of 2050 Porsche European Delivery; Tale of Woe by blckislandguy Jul 05, 2006 (6:04 pm)
Anyone toying with the idea of picking up a car at the factory should read the long link at Post #16886 (June 30, 2006) on the High End Luxury Marque site here on Edmunds.   This early adopter picked up a Cayman S with his son at the factory. Very early on they had a problem with the flywheel bolts. This is apparently very common on the early Caymans. The factory personnell were not at all sympathetic, didn't return calls (he spoke to 17 people in 48 hours), and he was as good as stranded for these two days. Unfortunately, no one at the factory took ownership of the problem and would help him get the car fixed. Because the guy speaks German he was able to pick up a strong anti-US bias in factory personnel. Apparently the mid level people at Porsche don't realize that the war is over and we , who work a full 12 months a year, won.   While I've had a great dealership experience with Porsche here in NA, I do see the above attitude coming thru loud and clear in several ways. Take the option list. While a 911 has a list of 71K, no one in their right mind would want one that way for that kind of money. At 71K you don't get leather, power seats, NAV, a rear wiper---this must be a joke, right?, only four basic colors to choose from, etc. etc. So the stripper gets loaded up with 20K worth of stuff that everyone else throws in for free. (Compare the features on a XK Coupe with a list of 74K if in doubt). These Germans play rough. Replies to this message: nyccarguy (Jul 05, 2006 6:52 pm) habitat1 (Jul 06, 2006 7:44 am) designman (Jul 06, 2006 7:55 am) designman (Jul 06, 2006 7:51 am) habitat1 (Jul 08, 2006 7:42 pm)
#828 of 2050 Re: Porsche European Delivery; Tale of Woe [blckislandguy] by nyccarguy Jul 05, 2006 (6:52 pm)
Replying to: blckislandguy (Jul 05, 2006 6:04 pm) From what you describe, that guy who picked up his new Cayman S via European Delivery (ED) really got the short end of the stick. I can't speak for the anti-US sentiment in Germany because I've never been there. It shouldn't matter if the guy and his son were from Zimbabway; there was a problem with the car and it should have been fixed. Most of the ED experiences I've read about are BMWs and have never heard one negative comment.   I think the fact that Porsche essentially lets YOU customize every aspect of your 911 (Cayman, Boxster, Cayenne) is wonderful. I wish more carmakers would do this. Now granted I'm no where near in my right mind but I don't want power seats (manual adjustments work just fine for me, & it is one less thing to break down the road), I certainly don't want a NAV system. I'll take leather & a rear wiper. That Sport Chrono Package might come in handy as well as a set of those beautiful 19" Carrera S wheels. A Sunroof is standard (I love sunroofs)! I happen to like Carrera White (standard color), but if I'm spending $70 something thousand dollars on a car, a few extra hundred to get the color I want isn't going to kill me. I'm not going to comment on the 911 vs. XK8 coupe because this isn't the forum for that. The XK8 isn't offered with a manual transmission, so there is no comparison to be made.

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