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#5 of 2048 Porsch Spare by pathdoc Oct 06, 2004 (9:13 am)
I'm sorry but If you really use the car for touring it is unacceptable not to have a spare. If I am in a remote are between Palm Springs and Las Vegas(or up North on CA1) the cell doesn't work I would not want to depend on "someone passing by".In a recent "Automobile" article reviewing the 997 they had the same problem. They had a flat on their trip through Europe and were delayed while they waited for roadside assistance. It went something like "I opened the trunk and had a sinking feeling when I saw that there was no spare". There are too mant competitors in the market to stretch practicallity to this extent for the "Porsche experience". Corvette and BMW have run flats as well as Lexus and I believe Aston Martin. Replies to this message: porschetarga4s (Oct 10, 2006 11:44 am)
#6 of 2048 Have you driven on runflats? by kyfdx HOST Oct 06, 2004 (9:26 am)
I'm not saying Porsche shouldn't have a spare.. but, I wouldn't want the solution to be runflats.. They leave a lot to be desired. They can ruin the ride of a decent car.
#7 of 2048 by Mr_Shiftright HOST Oct 06, 2004 (9:37 am)
High speed touring in a powerful sports coupe has all kinds of risks associated with it, the least of which is a flat tire I think. You know, it happens, deal with it. You can't expect a car company to cover all your bases in every contigency. All vehicles make design compromises of one sort or another. Run flats is also a compromise that is no less distasteful than no spare, either in terms of ride or expense. Ask a Lexus SC430 owner, who is the very antithesis of a Porsche owner anyway. Replies to this message: mbrady1 (Aug 01, 2005 4:28 pm) Mr_Shiftright (Aug 02, 2005 6:09 am) mbrady1 (Aug 02, 2005 12:36 pm) and 1 more...
#8 of 2048 Porsche Spare by pathdoc Oct 06, 2004 (9:40 am)
I currently have a Jag XKR which has a standard spare. Since I have a couple of older Porsches I was thinking of a new 997 to replace the Jag next year. Since I do take the car on extended trips I really want a spare. I am now going to check out the SL500. Although I haven't driven a car with run flats I find it hard to believe that the Corvette and 645i BMW give up much in handling/ride . Replies to this message: kyfdx (Oct 06, 2004 10:24 am)
#9 of 2048 Re: Porsche Spare [pathdoc] by kyfdx HOST Oct 06, 2004 (10:24 am)
Replying to: pathdoc (Oct 06, 2004 9:40 am) Believe it.. runflats suck! I'm surprised that Porsche (and Lexus, BMW, etc) don't offer the option of the little doughnut tire.. There is plenty of room for it, in almost any car.. Just for emergency purposes..   Not having a spare won't keep me from buying a car, but until runflats get a lot better, I'll avoid any car that has them (which is getting harder to do).   regards, kyfdx
#10 of 2048 Porsche spare by pathdoc Oct 06, 2004 (11:31 am)
A doughnut tire I could accept. It is interesting that my older Porsches (70 914-6& 78 911 SC targa both have full sized tires. Progress? Replies to this message: porschetarga4s (Oct 10, 2006 11:49 am) kyfdx (Oct 10, 2006 11:51 am)
#11 of 2048 by sphinx99 Oct 06, 2004 (9:12 pm)
Progress has many definitions.   There should be a doughnut, at the minimum. Other premier sports cars have managed this accomplishment (Porsche 911 included) for many decades without adversely affecting handling or performance. As for the argument that sports cars come with risk, well, that may be the case if we were talking about a stripped Lotus Elise here. But we're not, we're talking about the 911 which is as chock full of features and luxury amenities as many a top-tier sports car today. This makes the omission more notable.   They should include a standard satallite phone
#12 of 2048 by Mr_Shiftright HOST Oct 07, 2004 (12:21 pm)
It's these big fat tires they are putting on cars today. they certainly wouldn't fit in an old 911 either, so what can you do? Replies to this message: kyfdx (Oct 07, 2004 12:27 pm)
#13 of 2048 Re: [Mr_Shiftright] by kyfdx HOST Oct 07, 2004 (12:27 pm)
Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 07, 2004 12:21 pm) Well..that is true.. my '84 911 had whopping 225/50-16 on the rear.. That is on every wannabe economy car now..   But, they could make a full-diameter doughnut.. It would be the same height as the stock tire, but still skinny.. That should fit easily, as the new 17" and 18" tires aren't any taller.. just fatter.   regards, kyfdx
#14 of 2048 by Mr_Shiftright HOST Oct 07, 2004 (12:32 pm)
I'd have to look the car over to say anything more about it, but it could be that a doughnut is actually impossible with the current design. In other words, the spare tire was consciously designed out from the get-go. Maybe you could lie it flat in there and lock it with a center bolt but ....goodbye trunk space.   It's kind of a non-issue for me. I haven't had a flat tire in ten years. (uh-oh, I shouldn't have said that...damn!)   Replies to this message: kyfdx (Oct 07, 2004 12:42 pm)

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