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#1977 of 2048
Re: 1982 Porsche paint color chips [Mr_Shiftright] by buylow
Oct 06, 2008 (1:13 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 06, 2008 6:43 am)

Glad to be of service.
 
Have a question regarding market values of 911sc's (1978 to '83) vs.the '87-89 911's with the bigger and better trans and clutch and bigger engine. We kinda talked about this before when I was more concerned with actual prices. Let's assume both are in excellent condition inside and out and both have, say 100,000 miles. Would a person be crazy to pay as much for a 1979 sc as a '88 or '89 911, all else being the same? You are getting a 9 year older car with a smaller engine and inferior trans and clutch, not to mention the chain tensioner and air box problems. On the other hand, could an argument be made that the sc is a different car with different handling (maybe a little quicker at the start because it's lighter) and the 9 extra years just means that it will be a classic sooner than the '87-'89's?. If there are people that prefer sc's over the rest of the 1980's then I assume that would justify similar pricing, or maybe, not. I'm just trying to get a handle on how the market place differentiates between the porsches from 1978 to 1989. I hope you or someone has an opinion about all of this. I will consider, "Just buy the newest porsche you can afford", a cop out answer.
 
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#1978 of 2048
Re: 1982 Porsche paint color chips [buylow] by lemmer
Oct 06, 2008 (1:50 pm)
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Replying to: buylow (Oct 06, 2008 1:13 pm)

In similar condition, the 87-89 Carerras are worth more than the SCs. Most SCs in excellent condition probably already have the updated airbox and possibly the tensioner. I can tell you from experience the clutch and transmission are not buttery smooth on the pre '87 cars. I find them kind of notchy, stiff, and even a little clunky if your timing is off a little when you shift. If you can find an 87-89 car, that is the car to buy IMHO.
#1979 of 2048
Re: 1982 Porsche paint color chips [buylow] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Oct 06, 2008 (2:08 pm)
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Replying to: buylow (Oct 06, 2008 1:13 pm)

The Carreras are worth more and yes you'd be crazy to pay Carrera money for an SC.
 
Basically, I feel pretty safe in saying that after 1973, Porsche 911s behave like used cars in the marketplace, not like classics---that is, the older they are the LESS they are worth, and the newer, the more. This seems to also hold for 944, 928, 914, etc etc.
 
Will this change? No sign of it yet. Maybe in another 10-20 years?
#1980 of 2048
911 crash testing performance by loastcoast
Oct 26, 2008 (9:05 am)
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Is there any information available regarding 911 performance during crashing testing? Why does it seem like there is no crash test data either from Europe or the US?
#1981 of 2048
Re: 911 crash testing performance [loastcoast] by madmanmoo
Oct 27, 2008 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: loastcoast (Oct 26, 2008 9:05 am)

There are no published crash tests. That's why you can't find them.
#1982 of 2048
Re: 911 crash testing performance [loastcoast] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Oct 27, 2008 (7:42 am)
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Replying to: loastcoast (Oct 26, 2008 9:05 am)

That's one area where I would give Porsche the benefit of the doubt and not worry.
#1983 of 2048
Re: Winter Storage [kennygoodboy] by 911c4s
Nov 14, 2008 (5:45 pm)
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Replying to: kennygoodboy (Apr 09, 2007 7:38 am)

I store my 911 every year. This is what I do (after extensive research and asking the dealer). Inflate tires to 50psi; clean car thoroughly in and out (make sure its dry before you put it away. I usually drive it around for an hour and get it nice and hot and get the water out of everywhere). I fill the gas tank and then put Stabilizer in the fuel tank. I connect car to a porsche trickle charger. (some say dont lock the car since that will engage the alarm and that drains the battery - i think thats unnecessary. I also put a leather treatment on the seats to keep them moist so as not to crack from the cold (im in canada, my garage gets pretty cold and dry). I close all the vents to keep the cold air out of the cabin - this helps with keeping interior leather moist. I also use a porsche cover on the car to protect from salt or scratches when moving things in and out of garage. Oh and Ive been told you shouldnt leave it in gear. The best thing to do is to put a brick under the tires and dont engage the emerg brake or leave it in gear. You can use what you want from this but this is the "full storage list" i received. I do it all except I lock the car. There are also 2 schools of thought. Start the car once in a while to get the oil hot etc. and the more popular one is to not start the car until spring at all. The idea is that some experts say that since the car is cold and drained of oil the cold start is very harsh on the car and should be avoided. I never start the car until spring. Its always worked well for me on all 3 of my porsches.
Then again, my friend does absolutely nothing except put a cover on the car and his runs fine. I prefer to do the whole ritual. Makes it seem so special to me when I put it away. My wife thinks Im nuts about the car and the procedure..which makes me think I must be right...
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Re: Winter Storage [911c4s] by madmanmoo
Nov 15, 2008 (8:55 am)
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Replying to: 911c4s (Nov 14, 2008 5:45 pm)

I wish you were trading in your vehicles at my dealership. They must be immaculate with that kind of care.
 
Plus, the ritual is pretty cool.
#1985 of 2048
993 c4 versus 996 with psm? by loastcoast
Nov 15, 2008 (1:25 pm)
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which handles better, the 993 c4 or the (02-04) 996 c2 with psm? in particular i am interested in which is less likely to fish tail, or have its rear end slide out of my control during tight turns? i have an SC that has gotten away from me a few times and makes me worry when i push it.

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