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Re: 1978-83 911SC [Mr_Shiftright] by buylow
Sep 14, 2008 (9:41 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 22, 2008 9:01 am)

Found what I wanted on Craig's list - an '87 911 Targa, guards red, with 118,000 miles, and it's in mint condition with records for the last six years. I was suspicious at first because the interior and exterior are in such good condition, but my Porsche mechanic did a three hour plus, inspection and said he would buy it if I didn't. The inspection, by the way, was $350 plus tax, but well worth it. It needs a tune up, oil change, a/c charge, and a few other things to the tune of about $1200 which is going to be done this Tuesday. More importantly, the inspection confirmed that it's all original, never been in an accident, most of the paint is original and the engine is in good condition. I paid $17,000 plus the $1200 in repairs. Owner was asking $18,900. I'm sure I could have gotten it cheaper, but I got too excited. Saw it the second day it came out and was afraid he would be getting a lot of calls. I also noticed that these older Porsches seem to sell for more in California than other places.
 
Yours right, the G50 transmission and clutch is a lot more civilized than the SC's, but because of the extra weight, not as peppy as the SC with the 3.0 engine vs.the 3.2 in the '87. I would think the '84 to '86 911's would be the fastest with the 3.2 engine, but without the extra weight of the G50 trans. Can you confirm this? The auto trader was another good place to look. Thanks to all for the info.
 
By the way, I just got back from Birmingham, Alabama, for the two day Porsche high performance driving school. This school is owned by Porsche and is worth every penny. They use the Barbara Motorsports track which, by the way, is no relation to Skip Barbara. All new 911 and 911s. Track is 2.4 miles with 14 turns and a 350 foot elevation difference. Went off road in the cayennes too, and got to take a hot lap in a GT3. A first class operation.
 
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Re: Popular color for Porsche Carrera [asi12] by habitat1
Sep 15, 2008 (4:03 am)
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Replying to: asi12 (Sep 13, 2008 6:02 pm)

There is a lot of speculation about color and resale value. I have a 2005 911S Cab in Seal Grey that I bought off the lot in Spetember, 2005 at a great deal ($10k off). My preference at that time would have been Speed Yellow and, in fact, the next spring I ordered a 2006 through the dealer that I then decided not to take when a deal to sell my 2005 fell through. The dealer kept the Speed Yellow on their lot for about 6-8 weeks, longer than most other colors at the time, but then it sold for near MSRP (vs. the $8k off I had negotiated) to someone that had it shipped to Arizona. There were only about 3-5 new Speed Yellow 911S Cabs in the country at the time, vs. probably hundreds of gray, silver or black ones.
 
IMO, my seal gray will be easier to sell than speed yellow, but on the other hand, I won't get much value for some of the $13k in options on the car. The biggest color danger is in the interior cusomization. Before I ordered that Speed Yellow, I saw one that had gone overboard with yellow guages, yellow seat stitching, yellow seat belts, yellow center console. You needed sunglasses driving at night. I've seen some other interior color combos that only the original bipolar owner could love. But short of those, I think you can be pretty safe going with almost any exterior color and keeping the option list under control.
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Re: 1978-83 911SC [buylow] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Sep 15, 2008 (7:29 am)
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Replying to: buylow (Sep 14, 2008 9:41 pm)

Sounds good! Yeah, price is market correct but miles are great and condition sounds terrific. Congrats! I've seen old Porsches with well over 300,000 on them. (just saw one the other day, original owner). Try THAT with a Corvette or Ferrari. Not gonna happen.
 
My impression last time I drove one was that the SC is kinda doggy compared to later cars.
 
As for the AC, if you don't need it I'd consider removing the compressor and putting it in a box. It really gets in the way of everything.
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Re: 1978-83 911SC [buylow] by lemmer
Sep 15, 2008 (7:36 am)
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Replying to: buylow (Sep 14, 2008 9:41 pm)

The Barber track is literally right down the road from me - about 5 miles. That would be Barber, as in George Barber, a dairy guy.
 
It looks like I'll be picking up my '86 Carerra on Friday. It doesn't sound quite as nice as your car, but I am still really excited.
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Re: 1978-83 911SC [lemmer] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Sep 15, 2008 (7:43 am)
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Replying to: lemmer (Sep 15, 2008 7:36 am)

Just remember you guys, to bring your babies to Hans and Dieter every Spring and every Fall for their service and checkups. Do that and the cars will run forever. If you put $100/$125 a month into routine maintenance you are way ahead in the long run.
 
And never let some monkey touch your car. I've seen quite a few botched up Porsches done by people who didn't know what they were doing, and it wasn't pretty.
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Porsche extended warranty by asi12
Sep 15, 2008 (11:30 am)
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Thanks Habitat.
Any suggestions what are good interior color combination with mid night blue or red exterior colors?
 
I have seen used convertibles few weeks ago and there were few and now inventory is increasing as fall and winter is approaching. Can one expect 10K discount on convertibles from now and then in north east in January when there is 1 foot of snow fall? By the way I think, economy is still very soft so I don't see any rush to buy right now.
 
Lets say if someone is buying a brand new Porsche 911, standard warranty is 4 years what is the maximum extended warranty one can get? Is it like 8 years/100K miles or even one can go longer than that? Is there any difference in terms of maximum extended warranty on new vs certified/used Porsche?
 
In general who is the provider of extended warranty, Porsche or third party? Is it bumper to bumper warranty or depends?
 
Is there any difference for the extended warranty purchased at the time of initial purchase or with used pre-owned certified Porsche? Is this extended warranty is transferable to new owner if you decide to sell it later on?
 
Sorry for lots of questions.
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Re: Porsche extended warranty [asi12] by madmanmoo
Sep 15, 2008 (11:37 am)
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Replying to: asi12 (Sep 15, 2008 11:30 am)

Can one expect 10K discount on convertibles from now and then in north east in January when there is 1 foot of snow fall?
 
Convertible discounts? Much better chance of that during the winter for sure. The only problem may be supply. I don't know about all the other dealers, but our dealership is huge and we have only about 7 left.
 
Warranty - Standard warranty is 4 yrs / 50,000 miles. Porsche recently came out with a new program where the certified warranty is IDENTICAL to the new. That pushes your warranty out to 6 yrs or 100,000 miles from the in date service. Cost is $1,990. Phenomenal warranty program. There are other programs in place, but the cost of them is quite high. I'm not sure the furthest that you can go out, but my educated guess is probably 8 years or 100,000.
 
Porsche is the backer for all the warranties that we sell at our dealership. It is bumper to bumper.
 
Is there any difference for the extended warranty purchased at the time of initial purchase or with use pre-owned certified Porsche?
 
I would call your local Porsche dealer and talk with the finance manager. He would probably run you a quote on both and tell you all the differences. In short, yes they are different.
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Re: Porsche extended warranty [asi12] by habitat1
Sep 16, 2008 (4:52 am)
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Replying to: asi12 (Sep 15, 2008 11:30 am)

Moo answered most of your questions better than I could have. As for interior colors, mine is black and that, IMO, is safe and looks good with any exterior. I've seen a few red, green and white exteriors with tan interiors, some look good, some not so good. There was also a "stone grey", with a matching top, at the same time I bought mine. That looked pretty good, but I'd suggest you see anything other than black in person before making your own decision.
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Re: Porsche extended warranty [habitat1] by madmanmoo
Sep 16, 2008 (4:53 am)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Sep 16, 2008 4:52 am)

The only addition I would add on is that the Grey interior is a tough sell and the grey top is virtually unsellable. I would stay away from those combinations as best as you can.
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interior colors by asi12
Sep 16, 2008 (1:41 pm)
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Thanks habitat1 and madmanmoo
 
How does sand beige interior (seats and dash board) with red and blue exterior. I have seen in the pictures which looks ok. I think beige works well with black exterior but I need to see in person.
 
Does top color same as exterior hurt its value? Like blue top on blue exterior and sand beige interior?
 
Habitat1
From your post I gathered your Porsche is rear wheel drive. Do you drive in winter or on icy roads? I heard most rear wheel drive cars like BMW are not good to drive in these conditions. How is your experience?

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