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#1953 of 2048 Re: About to buy 05 C2 997, no CPO [habitat1] by madmanmoo Aug 23, 2008 (5:55 am)
Replying to: habitat1 (Aug 23, 2008 4:10 am) I think I read too fast. I didn't see the Cab part. I was evaluating yours based on a C2S. The price would move into the high $60k's with a Cab. That's based on what I've been seeing coming through here.
#1954 of 2048 Re: 1978-83 911SC [kyfdx] by buylow Aug 23, 2008 (11:35 am)
Replying to: kyfdx (Aug 22, 2008 6:21 am) Ahaw, I had my heart set on a targa. This may be an academic discussion since my wife thinks the targas are soo darn cute, but what are the problems with the targa-higher maintenance and water leakage? Anything that can't be fixed? Since I have a coup, I thought mixing it up might be interesting unless it will become a headache.   I checked Craig's list, but didn't find much. Ebaymotors was better. I'll check the auto trader, as mentioned. I'm going for the "87-89's, but if a good SC comes along first, I'll go for it. Going to try to keep it under $20,000. Replies to this message: kyfdx (Aug 23, 2008 1:16 pm) Mr_Shiftright (Aug 24, 2008 8:30 pm)
#1955 of 2048 Re: 1978-83 911SC [buylow] by kyfdx HOST Aug 23, 2008 (1:16 pm)
Replying to: buylow (Aug 23, 2008 11:35 am) I never had a leak with my Targa...   But, the rear seal deteriorates... This is the rubber seal that is mounted to the car, not the top.... It is one long seal that starts at the top of the door and goes up, across the targa bar and back down to the top of the other door... The windows and the back of the targa top seal against it.. Getting an installer that knows what they are doing is half the battle, but a replacement job can run $700-$800..   The, you have the targa skin and headliner... Both of these wear out and have to be replaced... the frame is usually good forever.. Figure another $600+ for the skin/headliner.   I had a targa.... loved it.. Always said I'd get a sunroof coupe, if I ever did it again..
#1956 of 2048 Re: 1978-83 911SC [buylow] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Aug 24, 2008 (8:30 pm)
Replying to: buylow (Aug 23, 2008 11:35 am) Targas squeak and leak, and they compromise body integrity. So you can't easily vintage-race them.    But if you re-seal them carefully, and lube up the seals, they can be tolerable. I wouldn't pay extra for one over a sunroof coupe, by no means.
#1957 of 2048 Popular color for Porsche Carrera by asi12 Sep 13, 2008 (6:02 pm)
What are the most popular colors for Porsche 911 esp. which keeps its resale value?   Black, white, red and yellow are standard colors if someone is ordering new. I have seen, both new and used Porsche, black is the most abundant color followed by silver and gray. Is there any particular reason for that? Some colors like Gold metallic and green can be difficult to sell if one needs to later on?   What is the market for red, blue and yellow colors? I know one buy it for his/her own enjoyment but lets say if someone does not have any preference for a particular color. Any opinion on that? Replies to this message: habitat1 (Sep 15, 2008 4:03 am)
#1958 of 2048 Re: 1978-83 911SC [Mr_Shiftright] by buylow Sep 14, 2008 (9:41 pm)
Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 22, 2008 9:01 am) Found what I wanted on Craig's list - an '87 911 Targa, guards red, with 118,000 miles, and it's in mint condition with records for the last six years. I was suspicious at first because the interior and exterior are in such good condition, but my Porsche mechanic did a three hour plus, inspection and said he would buy it if I didn't. The inspection, by the way, was $350 plus tax, but well worth it. It needs a tune up, oil change, a/c charge, and a few other things to the tune of about $1200 which is going to be done this Tuesday. More importantly, the inspection confirmed that it's all original, never been in an accident, most of the paint is original and the engine is in good condition. I paid $17,000 plus the $1200 in repairs. Owner was asking $18,900. I'm sure I could have gotten it cheaper, but I got too excited. Saw it the second day it came out and was afraid he would be getting a lot of calls. I also noticed that these older Porsches seem to sell for more in California than other places.   Yours right, the G50 transmission and clutch is a lot more civilized than the SC's, but because of the extra weight, not as peppy as the SC with the 3.0 engine vs.the 3.2 in the '87. I would think the '84 to '86 911's would be the fastest with the 3.2 engine, but without the extra weight of the G50 trans. Can you confirm this? The auto trader was another good place to look. Thanks to all for the info.   By the way, I just got back from Birmingham, Alabama, for the two day Porsche high performance driving school. This school is owned by Porsche and is worth every penny. They use the Barbara Motorsports track which, by the way, is no relation to Skip Barbara. All new 911 and 911s. Track is 2.4 miles with 14 turns and a 350 foot elevation difference. Went off road in the cayennes too, and got to take a hot lap in a GT3. A first class operation.   Earl Replies to this message: Mr_Shiftright (Sep 15, 2008 7:29 am) lemmer (Sep 15, 2008 7:36 am) Mr_Shiftright (Sep 15, 2008 7:43 am)
#1959 of 2048 Re: Popular color for Porsche Carrera [asi12] by habitat1 Sep 15, 2008 (4:03 am)
Replying to: asi12 (Sep 13, 2008 6:02 pm) There is a lot of speculation about color and resale value. I have a 2005 911S Cab in Seal Grey that I bought off the lot in Spetember, 2005 at a great deal ($10k off). My preference at that time would have been Speed Yellow and, in fact, the next spring I ordered a 2006 through the dealer that I then decided not to take when a deal to sell my 2005 fell through. The dealer kept the Speed Yellow on their lot for about 6-8 weeks, longer than most other colors at the time, but then it sold for near MSRP (vs. the $8k off I had negotiated) to someone that had it shipped to Arizona. There were only about 3-5 new Speed Yellow 911S Cabs in the country at the time, vs. probably hundreds of gray, silver or black ones.   IMO, my seal gray will be easier to sell than speed yellow, but on the other hand, I won't get much value for some of the $13k in options on the car. The biggest color danger is in the interior cusomization. Before I ordered that Speed Yellow, I saw one that had gone overboard with yellow guages, yellow seat stitching, yellow seat belts, yellow center console. You needed sunglasses driving at night. I've seen some other interior color combos that only the original bipolar owner could love. But short of those, I think you can be pretty safe going with almost any exterior color and keeping the option list under control.
#1960 of 2048 Re: 1978-83 911SC [buylow] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Sep 15, 2008 (7:29 am)
Replying to: buylow (Sep 14, 2008 9:41 pm) Sounds good! Yeah, price is market correct but miles are great and condition sounds terrific. Congrats! I've seen old Porsches with well over 300,000 on them. (just saw one the other day, original owner). Try THAT with a Corvette or Ferrari. Not gonna happen.   My impression last time I drove one was that the SC is kinda doggy compared to later cars.   As for the AC, if you don't need it I'd consider removing the compressor and putting it in a box. It really gets in the way of everything.
#1961 of 2048 Re: 1978-83 911SC [buylow] by lemmer Sep 15, 2008 (7:36 am)
Replying to: buylow (Sep 14, 2008 9:41 pm) The Barber track is literally right down the road from me - about 5 miles. That would be Barber, as in George Barber, a dairy guy.   It looks like I'll be picking up my '86 Carerra on Friday. It doesn't sound quite as nice as your car, but I am still really excited. Replies to this message: Mr_Shiftright (Sep 15, 2008 7:43 am)
#1962 of 2048 Re: 1978-83 911SC [lemmer] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Sep 15, 2008 (7:43 am)
Replying to: lemmer (Sep 15, 2008 7:36 am) Just remember you guys, to bring your babies to Hans and Dieter every Spring and every Fall for their service and checkups. Do that and the cars will run forever. If you put $100/$125 a month into routine maintenance you are way ahead in the long run.   And never let some monkey touch your car. I've seen quite a few botched up Porsches done by people who didn't know what they were doing, and it wasn't pretty.

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