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Re: 1978-83 911SC [kyfdx] by lemmer
Aug 22, 2008 (6:25 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Aug 22, 2008 6:21 am)

84-86 still have the old style transmission and clutch. That is why 87-89s are preferred by most. It clearly doesn't matter to me too much since I am in the process of purchasing an '86.
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Re: 1978-83 911SC [lemmer] by kyfdx HOST
Aug 22, 2008 (6:28 am)
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Replying to: lemmer (Aug 22, 2008 6:25 am)

I had an '84.. Didn't know they were different... Of course, I still have a massive left quad muscle, and I sold the car in '94... lol.
 
'86... big update... you get the third center-mounted brake light..
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Re: 1978-83 911SC [kyfdx] by lemmer
Aug 22, 2008 (6:33 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Aug 22, 2008 6:28 am)

If I want something easy to drive, I'll borrow the wife's Pilot. Comfort is for sissies.
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Re: 1978-83 911SC [lemmer] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Aug 22, 2008 (9:01 am)
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Replying to: lemmer (Aug 22, 2008 6:25 am)

The 87-89 clutch is like "budda". It's really a significant improvement. The shifts are sure for one thing, you don't have to miss shifts, jam the lever in, or constantly re-adjust the clutch cable like on the 84-86s. And you'll get more time between clutch replacements.
 
I agree, $20K should be more than enough to get a clean driver Carrera in very good condition. Porsche Carrera engines are EASY 200,000 mile engines and I have seen them unopened up to 250K.
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Re: About to buy 05 C2 997, no CPO [madmanmoo] by habitat1
Aug 23, 2008 (4:10 am)
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Replying to: madmanmoo (Aug 22, 2008 5:21 am)

I respect your first hand experience, but your two estimates of fair value don't seem to reconcile with each other:
 
C2 base coupe, 39,000 miles $55k.
C2 "S" Cab, 22,000 miles $62k +/-.
 
In my market, the "S" alone is worth at least $5-7k in the used market Not sure about the cab vs. coupe since it is somewhat seasonal, but the list price is $10k more for the Cab. And, although 911's are not Ferrari 430's where extra miles on the odometer cost you about $2 each, the extra 17k mileage has to have some impact on resale ($5-7k?). Collectively, it looks to me like these total a $15k difference, not $7-8K+/-.
 
If my math is correct, then either the "low 60's" for a C2S Cab w/22k miles is the right number and the C2 coupe should be high $40's, or the $55k number for the C2 base coupe is right and the C2S Cab should be high 60's/$70k. That doesn't take into consideration the effect of a tiptronic vs. 6-speed transmission which, although a $3,400 option, my dealer insists is a detraction when it comes to resale. Especially now that the new double clutch DSG is out.
 
Feel free to tell me where my math/rationale is off - it certainly wouldn't be the first time.
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Re: About to buy 05 C2 997, no CPO [habitat1] by madmanmoo
Aug 23, 2008 (5:55 am)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Aug 23, 2008 4:10 am)

I think I read too fast. I didn't see the Cab part. I was evaluating yours based on a C2S. The price would move into the high $60k's with a Cab. That's based on what I've been seeing coming through here.
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Re: 1978-83 911SC [kyfdx] by buylow
Aug 23, 2008 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Aug 22, 2008 6:21 am)

Ahaw, I had my heart set on a targa. This may be an academic discussion since my wife thinks the targas are soo darn cute, but what are the problems with the targa-higher maintenance and water leakage? Anything that can't be fixed? Since I have a coup, I thought mixing it up might be interesting unless it will become a headache.
 
I checked Craig's list, but didn't find much. Ebaymotors was better. I'll check the auto trader, as mentioned. I'm going for the "87-89's, but if a good SC comes along first, I'll go for it. Going to try to keep it under $20,000.
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Re: 1978-83 911SC [buylow] by kyfdx HOST
Aug 23, 2008 (1:16 pm)
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Replying to: buylow (Aug 23, 2008 11:35 am)

I never had a leak with my Targa...
 
But, the rear seal deteriorates... This is the rubber seal that is mounted to the car, not the top.... It is one long seal that starts at the top of the door and goes up, across the targa bar and back down to the top of the other door... The windows and the back of the targa top seal against it.. Getting an installer that knows what they are doing is half the battle, but a replacement job can run $700-$800..
 
The, you have the targa skin and headliner... Both of these wear out and have to be replaced... the frame is usually good forever.. Figure another $600+ for the skin/headliner.
 
I had a targa.... loved it.. Always said I'd get a sunroof coupe, if I ever did it again..
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Re: 1978-83 911SC [buylow] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Aug 24, 2008 (8:30 pm)
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Replying to: buylow (Aug 23, 2008 11:35 am)

Targas squeak and leak, and they compromise body integrity. So you can't easily vintage-race them.
 
 But if you re-seal them carefully, and lube up the seals, they can be tolerable. I wouldn't pay extra for one over a sunroof coupe, by no means.
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Popular color for Porsche Carrera by asi12
Sep 13, 2008 (6:02 pm)
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What are the most popular colors for Porsche 911 esp. which keeps its resale value?
 
Black, white, red and yellow are standard colors if someone is ordering new. I have seen, both new and used Porsche, black is the most abundant color followed by silver and gray. Is there any particular reason for that? Some colors like Gold metallic and green can be difficult to sell if one needs to later on?
 
What is the market for red, blue and yellow colors? I know one buy it for his/her own enjoyment but lets say if someone does not have any preference for a particular color. Any opinion on that?

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