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#1874 of 2048
Re: Porsche active suspension management [buylow] by habitat1
May 10, 2008 (4:23 am)
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Replying to: buylow (May 09, 2008 6:53 pm)

Actually, upon further review of my records, I was mistaken. My last oil change was at 15k miles and 23 months, not 13k miles. I had my first oil change and service and done early at about 10k miles and 14 months. I was nervous about waiting the 2 full years, even though both my servicing dealer and selling dealer service managers said that it is fine for the 997. Unfortunately, I think the service technician forgot to reset the service computer and a "service due" light came on at 23 months, so I ended up doing it again. Even then 3/4 quart in the past 4,000 miles is pretty normal for a 911, perhaps even on the light side.
 
20,000 miles or 2 years between oil changes does sound like a long time, but the engine holds 9+ quarts and the oil filter is a large $40+ filter. And everyone from Porsche that I talked to said that this was a specific design feature/intent of the 997 model - i.e. reduced maintenance intervals.
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Trip computer by buylow
May 10, 2008 (8:11 am)
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The information exchange on this forum is very valuable. It gives someone like me a heads up on what to expect in the future as well as possible solutions. I guess my porsche is ready for an oil change - two years old. I don't know the in service date - in fact I do. I think on the trip computer under continuous, it shows the beginning date. I thought the information under continuous was valuable. You get an idea how the previous owner drove the car (in my case only one previous owner). My mpg was 16.1, and the average speed was, I think, around 30 miles when I purchased the car. Since I get 14mpg in town and 26+ on the freeway in 6th gear going 70 mph, I would conclude that the car had a balance of freeway and highway time. I always thought that the faster you go over 50 mpg really eats up the gas. However, because of the 6th gear (overdrive), the increased consumption from 65 to 80 mpg is very small - the rpm hangs around 3000. The trip computer dramatically shows you how stop and go can eat up the gas (obvious, but you see it very graphically on the computer). I have to shut it off when I'm in town.
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Re: Trip computer [buylow] by habitat1
May 11, 2008 (7:02 am)
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Replying to: buylow (May 10, 2008 8:11 am)

You should have recieved a complete service history when you bought the car, so there should be no guessing about the in-service date, whether or not there has been a previous oil change, and a printout of all service or warranty visits back to the dealer. Porsche keeps computer records of everything, so that if the car ever needs to go to a different dealer for service, they can pull it up the history immediately.
 
If you didn't get that, ask for it. My selling dealership provides it up front on all CPO cars.
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Re: Trip computer [habitat1] by buylow
May 11, 2008 (3:26 pm)
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Replying to: habitat1 (May 11, 2008 7:02 am)

Thanks Habitat. I'm going to see the pre-owned car manager tomorrow because I never got a second key, as promised. I will ask for the car history.
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Re: Trip computer [habitat1] by buylow
May 12, 2008 (4:55 pm)
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Replying to: habitat1 (May 11, 2008 7:02 am)

Dealer said he couldn't give me the car history because it contains personal information of the seller. Didn't think to tell him to delete the personal information and give me the print out. He did look up th history and said the oil was changed and the break lines flushed when the car was sold to me at 13,400 miles. Let's see, 400 miles in a little over two months - it's going to be a garage queen if I don't get busy. The service manager told me that for the 911 with my mileage, one quart of oil in 750 miles is average and when the computer graph reading (on the dash) is at the bottom, to put in1/2 qt.. Now, if I can get my second key, which is suppose to take two weeks, but has been two months, I'll be in good shape. The dealer said since the car was certified, I wouldn't have to pay for a second key. From the picture in the manual, it looks like the second key does not have a remote control.
Speaking of remotes, I finally figured out how to program the remote button on the headliner. Since my garage door opener in not a fixed code, I had to do an extra step and go up to the motor and push a button then go back to the front of the car with the remote or go inside the car, I forgot, to get the built in remote activated, but it now works.
 
I'm a little confused about the programed seat adjustment. I was able to program the seat using button 2. Button 1 is suppose to put the seat where you want it when you open the door with the key. It didn't work, but I may not of had the ignition on when I was programing. However, what good is having the seat adjustment linked to the key if you only use the remote?
 
Also, with no bluetooth, I assume the only way I can use the built in phone is to have a cell phone number just for the car. That sucks. I heard you can buy a bluetooth device, cheap, and put it on the sun visor. Also, do you know if the porsche navigation system is worth getting? I heard it was expensive and not very good. As long as I'm rambling, I saw a 928 GTS yesterday. I checked it out the the internet and saw that they were made from 1978 to 1995. I believe that GTS was only made in the latter years and that they were only 77 shipped to the U.S. in the last year of production. The car was very expensive for its time and was actually suppose to replace the 911 which was loosing popularity. I guess that didn't happen.
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Re: Trip computer [buylow] by habitat1
May 13, 2008 (7:26 pm)
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Replying to: buylow (May 12, 2008 4:55 pm)

The lame excuse that the car history has "personal information" of the previous owner is a crock. I'm sure it can be printed out with only the VIN number identifying the car - I've seen such a printout myself.
 
At 19k+ miles I'm only using about 3/4 quart per 3,000 miles. I think that's about average for a 997 model that was properly broken in. One quart per 750 miles seems like very high consumption, based upon what I've heard from other Porsche owners, and would cause me to think that either the car wasn't broken in properly and/or that there was a leak.
 
I don't think the 928 was ever really considered a likely 911 replacement. Front engine, 4 seat hatchback GT that was a comfortable highway cruiser but never came close to matching the visceral sports car feel or performance of the 911. Not only did their sales volume drop like a rock at the end of thier life, their resale value did too. According to an old KBB I have, a 1995 GTS had a base price of $86,000 new and, after three years, was only worth $51,500. A similar vintage 1995 911 Carrera Coupe had a base price of $63,000 ($23k less than the 928) and after three years, was still worth $55,000 ($3.5k more than the 928).
#1880 of 2048
Re: Trip computer [habitat1] by buylow
May 13, 2008 (9:42 pm)
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Replying to: habitat1 (May 13, 2008 7:26 pm)

Now that you mention it, that 1 qt per 750 miles seems ridiculously high. I'll be happy with 3/4 qt. per 3000 miles
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% Discount on ordered 911 by silver1331
May 19, 2008 (12:06 pm)
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What kind of discount have people gotten on an ordered 911? Seems like 7% or more is standard - has anyone pushed it past that?
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Re: % Discount on ordered 911 [silver1331] by tomtomtom
May 20, 2008 (12:33 pm)
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Replying to: silver1331 (May 19, 2008 12:06 pm)

since the order you place now will be the MY2009 with more standard HP, I don't think you can get more the 7% off
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Re: % Discount on ordered 911 [tomtomtom] by vwguild1
May 24, 2008 (9:51 am)
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Replying to: tomtomtom (May 20, 2008 12:33 pm)

But with smaller allocations, secondary to the $.64 USD, you should not be shocked to get a great deal less...

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