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Re: Skip Barber Driving School [buylow] by marinedoc
Apr 29, 2008 (1:26 pm)
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Replying to: buylow (Apr 28, 2008 7:53 pm)

You're right on. I have done the Porsche High Performance driving course at Road Atlanta and also did the three day Bondurant racing course, which, if successfully completed, qualifies you for an SCCA racing permit. They are both excellent courses, but obviously, one is geared to racing and the other is instruction in high speed, high performance driving, in obviously, the Porsche Carrera. I've taken several such courses, including ones for motorcycle, and all are good, and each one, while different, makes you a better driver, both on the track and in the street. Doc
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Re: Porsche Etiquette [buylow] by upnorth2
Apr 29, 2008 (4:29 pm)
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Replying to: buylow (Apr 24, 2008 6:16 pm)

We always wave at each other when approaching. We do not acknowledge Cayennes, they arent real Porsches. Sorry, peace sign is uncool. Raised fingers off the steering wheel is appropriate when approaching at low speed. A quick wave out an open window is OK too. We dont even look at Japanese wannabes although we might glance at other fine German machines.
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Re: Input Requested Re: Deals [habitat1] by upnorth2
Apr 29, 2008 (4:40 pm)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Apr 24, 2008 7:25 am)

Hey, Easy on the Continentals! My new 911S came with them and I have been very happy with them. I drive the car hard and got 9000 miles out of the rear tires. The are MUCH quieter on the highway that Michilens and wear better that Pirellis. Michilens are over rated .
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Re: Porsche Etiquette [upnorth2] by buylow
Apr 29, 2008 (9:53 pm)
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Replying to: upnorth2 (Apr 29, 2008 4:29 pm)

I like the raised finger off the steering wheel - cool. I can see that guy on CSI Miami doing it with shades on.
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Re: Input Requested Re: Deals [upnorth2] by habitat1
Apr 30, 2008 (1:12 am)
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Replying to: upnorth2 (Apr 29, 2008 4:40 pm)

Don't take my word on the Continentals, do the research and ask around yourself. When I checked, it appeared that in independent tests by Tire Rack and others, they came in last in virtually every performance category. As for your wear experience, you think that's good? Driving "hard" is a relative term, but I got 12,800 out of my rear Pirelli's and am still O.K. at 18,600 on my fronts. Your 9,000 miles is less than a friend with a Turbo got out of his Michelins - and that inculded a few "Friday's at the Track" at Summit Point Raceway.
 
The Continentals are significantly cheaper (40%) than the Pirellis or Michelins, so if you are happy with them, that's great. But the more expereinced enthusiasts and dealers I've talked to claimed they weren't worth even the lower price. And, if I'm not mistaken, Porsche has dropped them as an OEM for 2008.
 
P.S. As for the Cayenne not being a "real Porsche", be careful with being too snobby! The GT-S 6-speed manual at my dealer that I'm still trying to make time to test drive would probably get around a track faster than a base Boxster or older 911. Or my 911S Cab for that matter, since without a permanant roll bar installed, it's not even permitted on a track. That friend with a Turbo has owned at least 2 Porsche's continuously for nearly 40 years. But never a "Cabriolet". He doesn't say it in front of me, but I know he doesn't consider them "real" Porsches. Or at least not real 911's.
 
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Re: Input Requested Re: Deals [habitat1] by marinedoc
Apr 30, 2008 (3:46 am)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Apr 30, 2008 1:12 am)

I got a little more than 10,000 miles with my Michelins on a 2002 C4S that involved a summer of autocross and track days at Gateway race track. After giving up racing just added four new tires to my current C4S with a little more than 30,000 miles.
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Re: Input Requested Re: Deals [buylow] by 07997turbo
Apr 30, 2008 (4:21 pm)
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Replying to: buylow (Apr 24, 2008 5:33 pm)

DO NOT BUY YOUR TIRES FROM A PORSCHE DEALER!!!!
 
They will take you to the cleaners. For what they wanted to charge me for TWO rear michelins, I found I could buy all 4 tires and have them mounted and load balanced from tirerack.com. The Michelins are probably the better tire but I am unhappy with their wear in the rear and am trying a set of pirellis this summer. not a big difference in price (couple hundred bucks cheaper) but I am hoping I get more than 9000 miles on a set of rears.
 
And Danica is the first woman to win an indy car race... this year... in japan.... I have it recorded on my dvr if you wanna watch it.
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Re: Input Requested Re: Deals [habitat1] by upnorth2
Apr 30, 2008 (5:32 pm)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Apr 30, 2008 1:12 am)

You are right, I asked my Porsche dealer about Contis and as you stated , Porsche no longer puts them on their new cars. As I have good Contis on the front with plenty of wear left, I wanted to just replace the rears. I called around and found the Continental Sport Contact 2 has been discontinued. I finally found a pair of the 295's for the rear at $450 ea. This was less than the Michilens but more than Pirellis. I checked a back issue of Car and Driver and found Tire Rack prices were similar when they still stocked the Conti 295's. It seems Pirellis are they least expensive. I realize the Cayenne is a hot SUV but its still a SUV. I have gotten similar comments about cabs not being real Porsches but I think this relates back to a time when the cabs suffered from body rigidity issues that have since been resolved with the 997 model. My cab does weigh a bit more (200) than a coupe but I can hear my sport exhaust far better with the roof down. I dove it at 145mph last summer with the roof down and it was remarkedly turbulent free. My baseball hat stayed on fine!
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Radar detectors by upnorth2
Apr 30, 2008 (5:45 pm)
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I have been thinking of buying a radar detector, Am I wasting my money? Do they work? My 911 seems to be a Cop magnet. ">link title
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Re: Input Requested Re: Deals [upnorth2] by habitat1
May 01, 2008 (5:51 am)
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Replying to: upnorth2 (Apr 30, 2008 5:32 pm)

Back when I replaced my rears last spring, the prices from Tire Rack were approximately Michilens $470, Pirellis, $440, Continentals $310. It sounds like the $450 you were quoted was a Porsche dealer (i.e. full retail) price. My dealer quoted me over $600 on the Michelins and $580+/- on the Pirellis, but ended up matching the Tire Rack price on the Pirellis.
 
If you are looking to save money, Bridgestone Potenza Pole Positions are rated very good/excellent in all categories by Tire Rack and are only $280. According to my dealer, they are much better than the Continentals - and are the only "discount" tire he would recommend in lieu of sticking with the Porsche OEM Pirellis and Michelins.

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