- #1841 of 2048
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Re: Skip Barber Driving School [chile96]
by buylow
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Apr 28, 2008 (7:53 pm)
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Replying to: chile96 (Apr 27, 2008 11:22 am)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Skip Barber school and the porsche different schools? I thought they share the same motorsport track outside of Brimingham, but the porsche school is more high performance driving with only porsches and Skip Barber is more racing oriented with different cars. Would like to know which is which before I sign up. More interested in things that will help me on the highway. By the way, I got the Skip Barber book, "Going Faster". Wow, if you like details, this is the book. It explains everything about racing to the nth degree. The problem is you can't learn to drive faster unless you drive faster which may kill you, hence the school. If you don't know anything about high performance driving, like me, then I think reading the book before going to the school will give you a great start.
Btw, what's up with getting two new cars at the same time, if I'm reading your post correctly?
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- #1842 of 2048
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Re: Skip Barber Driving School [buylow]
by marinedoc
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Apr 29, 2008 (1:26 pm)
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Replying to: buylow (Apr 28, 2008 7:53 pm)
You're right on. I have done the Porsche High Performance driving course at Road Atlanta and also did the three day Bondurant racing course, which, if successfully completed, qualifies you for an SCCA racing permit. They are both excellent courses, but obviously, one is geared to racing and the other is instruction in high speed, high performance driving, in obviously, the Porsche Carrera. I've taken several such courses, including ones for motorcycle, and all are good, and each one, while different, makes you a better driver, both on the track and in the street. Doc
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- #1843 of 2048
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Re: Porsche Etiquette [buylow]
by upnorth2
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Apr 29, 2008 (4:29 pm)
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Replying to: buylow (Apr 24, 2008 6:16 pm)
We always wave at each other when approaching. We do not acknowledge Cayennes, they arent real Porsches. Sorry, peace sign is uncool. Raised fingers off the steering wheel is appropriate when approaching at low speed. A quick wave out an open window is OK too. We dont even look at Japanese wannabes although we might glance at other fine German machines.
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- #1844 of 2048
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Re: Input Requested Re: Deals [habitat1]
by upnorth2
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Apr 29, 2008 (4:40 pm)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Apr 24, 2008 7:25 am)
Hey, Easy on the Continentals! My new 911S came with them and I have been very happy with them. I drive the car hard and got 9000 miles out of the rear tires. The are MUCH quieter on the highway that Michilens and wear better that Pirellis. Michilens are over rated .
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- #1845 of 2048
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Re: Porsche Etiquette [upnorth2]
by buylow
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Apr 29, 2008 (9:53 pm)
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Replying to: upnorth2 (Apr 29, 2008 4:29 pm)
I like the raised finger off the steering wheel - cool. I can see that guy on CSI Miami doing it with shades on.
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- #1846 of 2048
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Re: Input Requested Re: Deals [upnorth2]
by habitat1
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Apr 30, 2008 (1:12 am)
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Replying to: upnorth2 (Apr 29, 2008 4:40 pm)
Don't take my word on the Continentals, do the research and ask around yourself. When I checked, it appeared that in independent tests by Tire Rack and others, they came in last in virtually every performance category. As for your wear experience, you think that's good? Driving "hard" is a relative term, but I got 12,800 out of my rear Pirelli's and am still O.K. at 18,600 on my fronts. Your 9,000 miles is less than a friend with a Turbo got out of his Michelins - and that inculded a few "Friday's at the Track" at Summit Point Raceway.
The Continentals are significantly cheaper (40%) than the Pirellis or Michelins, so if you are happy with them, that's great. But the more expereinced enthusiasts and dealers I've talked to claimed they weren't worth even the lower price. And, if I'm not mistaken, Porsche has dropped them as an OEM for 2008.
P.S. As for the Cayenne not being a "real Porsche", be careful with being too snobby! The GT-S 6-speed manual at my dealer that I'm still trying to make time to test drive would probably get around a track faster than a base Boxster or older 911. Or my 911S Cab for that matter, since without a permanant roll bar installed, it's not even permitted on a track. That friend with a Turbo has owned at least 2 Porsche's continuously for nearly 40 years. But never a "Cabriolet". He doesn't say it in front of me, but I know he doesn't consider them "real" Porsches. Or at least not real 911's.
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- #1847 of 2048
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Re: Input Requested Re: Deals [habitat1]
by marinedoc
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Apr 30, 2008 (3:46 am)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Apr 30, 2008 1:12 am)
I got a little more than 10,000 miles with my Michelins on a 2002 C4S that involved a summer of autocross and track days at Gateway race track. After giving up racing just added four new tires to my current C4S with a little more than 30,000 miles.
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- #1848 of 2048
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Re: Input Requested Re: Deals [buylow]
by 07997turbo
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Apr 30, 2008 (4:21 pm)
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Replying to: buylow (Apr 24, 2008 5:33 pm)
DO NOT BUY YOUR TIRES FROM A PORSCHE DEALER!!!!
They will take you to the cleaners. For what they wanted to charge me for TWO rear michelins, I found I could buy all 4 tires and have them mounted and load balanced from tirerack.com. The Michelins are probably the better tire but I am unhappy with their wear in the rear and am trying a set of pirellis this summer. not a big difference in price (couple hundred bucks cheaper) but I am hoping I get more than 9000 miles on a set of rears.
And Danica is the first woman to win an indy car race... this year... in japan.... I have it recorded on my dvr if you wanna watch it.
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- #1849 of 2048
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Re: Input Requested Re: Deals [habitat1]
by upnorth2
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Apr 30, 2008 (5:32 pm)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Apr 30, 2008 1:12 am)
You are right, I asked my Porsche dealer about Contis and as you stated , Porsche no longer puts them on their new cars. As I have good Contis on the front with plenty of wear left, I wanted to just replace the rears. I called around and found the Continental Sport Contact 2 has  been discontinued. I finally found a pair of the 295's for the rear at $450 ea. This was less than the Michilens but more than Pirellis. I checked a back issue of Car and Driver and found Tire Rack prices were similar when they still stocked the Conti 295's. It seems Pirellis are they least expensive. I realize the Cayenne is a hot SUV but its still a SUV. I have gotten similar comments about cabs not being real Porsches but I think this relates back to a time when the cabs suffered from body rigidity issues that have since been resolved with the 997 model. My cab does weigh a bit more (200) than a coupe but I can hear my sport exhaust far better with the roof down. I dove it at 145mph last summer with the roof down and it was remarkedly turbulent free. My baseball hat stayed on fine!
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- #1850 of 2048
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Radar detectors
by upnorth2
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Apr 30, 2008 (5:45 pm)
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I have been thinking of buying a radar detector, Am I wasting my money? Do they work? My 911 seems to be a Cop magnet. ">link title
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