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#1833 of 2048
Buying vs. Leasing a Used Porsche by gocard1
Apr 24, 2008 (8:14 am)
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I had posted a few days ago about my dilemma on having a decent deal on an '06 911 Cab, but not with the color that I'm in love with. I've decided to forego that car for now so I remain in the market.
 
Despite what I perceive should be a softer market, the Porsche dealers are still pretty tight on discounts on '06 911 Cabs. I live in Southern California.
 
In any event, it has gotten me thinking about lease vs. purchase.
 
I see a lot of solid info on this site generally about leasing a new Porsche. Any thoughts/input on leasing a used '06 or '07 911 C2 Cab?
  
What kind of money factors do they use? What kind of residuals? Let's say a 36 or 48 month lease with 10k miles.
  
Any reactions to the prospect of leasing a couple of year old 911 vs. buying it?
  
My questions emanate from trying to balance the cost of leasing where I walk away in 3 to 4 years vs. purchasing and seeing what it will be worth in 3 to 4 years as retained "equity", taking into account having to pay hefty sales tax on a purchase for the full value of the car.
  
Any thoughts on info on things like money factors and residuals on '06 and '07 911 Cabs?
  
Thanks.
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Re: Input Requested Re: Deals [habitat1] by buylow
Apr 24, 2008 (5:33 pm)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Apr 24, 2008 7:25 am)

Thank you. By the way, who is Danika Patrick? The rear 295/30/19 is a Michlin Pilot Sport put on by the Porsche dealer. After reading that thread you're in called Porsche 911 wheels and Tires, it sounds like the Michilen Pilots are far superior to the Pirelli's, or at least better. Are you sure the 295/30/19 Michlin's can be had for $475?? That was the price, quoted by the dealer, for the smaller front tire which is 235/30/19, I think. I had better check this out because after reading that thread on wheels and tires, I don't think I'm going to get 40,000 miles like I get on my 1997 Ford ranger.
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Porsche Etiquette by buylow
Apr 24, 2008 (6:16 pm)
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As I mentioned in another thread, I am a new first time porsche owner. I was coming down the 405 fwy from Santa Moncia a couple of weeks ago when I came upon another 911 in front of me. We traveled together for a couple of miles when low and behold, I looked in the rear view mirror and there was another 911, all 997's!! Green, my GT silver and midnight blue. We stayed together for a good 5 miles before breaking up. What I would have given to have been on the side of the freeway looking at this. Anyway, I noticed that no one made any eye contact. I was going to open the sun roof and extend my arm with the peace sign, but my wife said, "That would not be cool". What do porsche owners do when they come upon one another??
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Re: Input Requested Re: Deals [buylow] by habitat1
Apr 25, 2008 (2:43 am)
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Replying to: buylow (Apr 24, 2008 5:33 pm)

By the way, who is Danika Patrick?
 
My bad on the spelling, it's Danica. I take it that you are snobbing her because her daily driver is a Lamborghini and not a Porsche?? But if you really don't know who she is, you need to get out more.
 
it sounds like the Michilen Pilots are far superior to the Pirelli's,
 
That would be an overstatement. The differences in performance are fairly minimal and, by some measures, the Pirelli's are above the Michelin's in dry handling. But overall, and factoring in tread life, the Michelin's were recommended by both of my dealers and a couple of other Porsche enthusiasts. Both the Pirellis and the Michelins are several rungs above the Continentals, which it appears are no longer used by Porsche.
 
Check out Tire Rack for prices. My dealer will mount and balance tires for the same fee, whether or not I buy them from the dealer or Tire Rack.
 
What do porsche owners do when they come upon one another??
 
In your case, I'd suggest listening to your wife.
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Re: Input Requested Re: Deals [habitat1] by buylow
Apr 25, 2008 (1:05 pm)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Apr 25, 2008 2:43 am)

Thanks for the info. I will check out the Tire Rack. I wish I was snobbing Danica but the fact is I never heard of her. My 23 year old daughter just told me that she is a race car driver that just won a big race a couple of weeks ago. I didn't want to ask her if Danica is hot, but I assume from your message that she is. I got the Porsche and that's the first step, so give me a break.
 
By the way, do know or heard anything about the Porsche high performance driving school is Alabama? It sound good from their web site. I really want to know the limits of the car.
#1838 of 2048
Re: Input Requested Re: Deals [buylow] by habitat1
Apr 25, 2008 (2:31 pm)
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Replying to: buylow (Apr 25, 2008 1:05 pm)

I have heard that the Porsche driving school is worth every penny and a tremendous experience. My daughters are 10 and 13, so between career and family responsibilities and building a new house, I don't think I'll have the time to make it this year. But if you can swing it, don't think twice.
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Re: Input Requested Re: Deals [habitat1] by buylow
Apr 26, 2008 (5:49 am)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Apr 25, 2008 2:31 pm)

That does it. I'm going in early September. Habitat building a house. That sounds interesting.
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Skip Barber Driving School by chile96
Apr 27, 2008 (11:22 am)
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If my new business is running smoothly and wife is OK with handling the new bambino(a) at that point who should be 3mos old at the time, I'm going to Skip Barber as well for the full weekend course. I have yet to hear one bad thing about it except the cost but still everybody I've spoken to say it's worth it, and it was money well spent.
 
I have ordered an M5 and a 550i from my local small town dealer who indicated that getting a M5 is luck of the draw from them, or getting an allocation build it. But nevertheless, BMW sends you out to the BMW driving school for M5 owners to learn the limits of the car safely. I just learned that Friday they started production on my 550i so it may be quite while until I can move "up". But when the time comes, and financial disaster does not strike, I plan to get that Mcar! would be great to compare the Skip Barber school with the BMW "M" driving school.
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Re: Skip Barber Driving School [chile96] by buylow
Apr 28, 2008 (7:53 pm)
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Replying to: chile96 (Apr 27, 2008 11:22 am)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Skip Barber school and the porsche different schools? I thought they share the same motorsport track outside of Brimingham, but the porsche school is more high performance driving with only porsches and Skip Barber is more racing oriented with different cars. Would like to know which is which before I sign up. More interested in things that will help me on the highway. By the way, I got the Skip Barber book, "Going Faster". Wow, if you like details, this is the book. It explains everything about racing to the nth degree. The problem is you can't learn to drive faster unless you drive faster which may kill you, hence the school. If you don't know anything about high performance driving, like me, then I think reading the book before going to the school will give you a great start.
 
Btw, what's up with getting two new cars at the same time, if I'm reading your post correctly?
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Re: Skip Barber Driving School [buylow] by marinedoc
Apr 29, 2008 (1:26 pm)
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Replying to: buylow (Apr 28, 2008 7:53 pm)

You're right on. I have done the Porsche High Performance driving course at Road Atlanta and also did the three day Bondurant racing course, which, if successfully completed, qualifies you for an SCCA racing permit. They are both excellent courses, but obviously, one is geared to racing and the other is instruction in high speed, high performance driving, in obviously, the Porsche Carrera. I've taken several such courses, including ones for motorcycle, and all are good, and each one, while different, makes you a better driver, both on the track and in the street. Doc

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