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Replying to: gtmaguire (Mar 24, 2008 8:05 pm) If you do really want AWD, then habitat's suggestion of $90k ($18k off sticker) would be right at the point where I would agree you are getting a very good deal on a leftover 2007, assuming it is indeed a new car. That's below what my dealer would go, but he doesn't let cars hang around a full 7 months after the previous model year ends. He would have discounted that car to $95-97k last in October and been done with it. The fact that it is still around is suspiscious and I'd make sure you get the full story. Good luck.
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Replying to: gtmaguire (Mar 24, 2008 8:05 pm) Spritinthesky raises another good point. If you want AWD, getting the car for several thousand under invoice is a good deal. But if you were inclined to go with RWD, that's a nearly $6,000 savings on MSRP. When I bought my 2005 C2S Cab off the lot, it had $13.5k in options of which I would not have ordered at least $4,500 (sport exhaust, leather seats, aluminum sill plate). Therefore, my $10k discount was really only about a $5,500 savings over the car that I would have ordered to my exact specifications. (Not including the $2,500 savings in base MSRP of a 2005 over the 2006). With all of the Porsche option selections, you really need to price the car against what, given the choice, you would exactly order. And then determine if the savings are worth it for you. I will say that I thought the sport exhaust was a frivolous $2,400 option, but in the intervening 2.5 years, I have really like the aggressive sound that can be turned on and off at the press of the "sport" button. Similarly, you might find that $2,100 for a nav system is equally frivolous, but if you essentially get it for free with a big discount, it is nice to have. |
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| I've had several Porsche' 911's (six), the last two being the C4S model, and never had the sport exhaust. However, the guys at my dealership told me that while being somewhat of a frivolous accessory, everyone that had it loved it, and once having had it, always order it on their new cars. | |
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Replying to: spiritinthesky (Mar 25, 2008 3:50 am) I love the exchange between the board members and the prospective owner over the past month. I am also looking into buying my first 911 (997) and am trying to decide whether or not I should get a gently used one or order exactly what I want. The trouble I seem to be having with the used market is that the listings I am finding all seem to be asking well over what Edmunds (and even KBB which I find is usually artificially higher) says a private party should be selling for. Now, I know everyone LOVES the car they ordered, so I can sort of understand people holding out for top dollar on their baby, but a private party asking for 10,000 below MSRP for a 2007 car just seems silly to me. Am I off base? Here's the car I'd like to buy for a fair price: 2007 C4S Coupe Tiptronic 4200 Miles GT silver (frivolous option ordered by owner) Power Seats w/memory upgraded sound 19" S wheels in crome PCM navigation system (I think that's it) I price this on edmunds used car calculator and get a retail price of $85k, private party of $81k (which gives the benefit of the doubt and credits the car $2000 for being in outstanding condition.) Original MSRP was $102k, which is lightly optioned for a C4S with a tip (no sports chrono, full leather, etc) The car is a 2007, but has been in service since Oct. 2006, so the warranty has 2.5 years remaining. Here's the thing, I have to have a tip, because I'm 6'7" and I don't like how my left leg brushes the bottom of the steering wheel when I'm shifting. Remarkably, I fit well in the car and find the tiptronic very easy and more comfortable for me to drive. I also like the C4 because I'm not going to be taking the car to a track and I find the awd, again, is just easier to drive. I pretty much figure that with the double whammy of a C4 in a tiptronic, I need the S to make up for the loss in power. So I know my IDEAL car is a C4S with a tip. What does everyone think that this guy's car is worth? It is a good configuration for me, but for that price, it seems like I can order a brand new one without the navigation, chrome wheels, or bose system and get the color I want, 1.5 years additional warranty, and my own break-in period, for what sounds like about 5K more (if $85k is a fair price for his car) Anyone care to sound off on this? I'm also very interested in hearing from anyone who has a 997 with a tip (any configuration) that they are thinking of selling. Thanks, -John
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I am looking to buy a '95 993 from an honest seller in the desert area. He was so honest that he mentioned that he has fretted about watching the temp gauge climb like a demon when stuck in traffic. In fact, he thinks he should consider a different car altogether due to the fact that the climate (and his use in the climate) is not conducive to a 993's overall health. If I get a compression check and a leak down test, would that be sufficient testing to reassure me that the heat had not damaged the engine? |
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Appreciate any input from the experts. I have one solid opportunity and a lot of other opportunity input. Solid one is a Red 2006 911 Certified Cab w/13k miles and solid amount of options (Xenon lights, Wheel caps with colored crests, CD changer, Power seat Package, Heated Seats, BOSE stereo and 19” Carrera “S” wheels). The price would be $65.9 but I think I can push them a bit more. I live in CA. Other things I'm encoutering from Porsche dealers, non-Porsche dealers having Porsches and private parties is centering around high 60s to low 70s. Certified cars are going in the 69-70s range. Questions: 1. I had not really thought about a Red 911. My optimal colors are Black, Silver, Gray and Blue. I know color is quite personal, but any visceral reactions to "red"? 2. Is red considered a "lower value" or "problem" color that could make it harder to sell down the road? 3. Any thoughts on the price of $65ish for this car? 4. Any thoughts on an additional $4-6k to get a preferred color (again, understand somewhat personal)? 5. Any thoughts on the 69-70ish ranges I repeatedly am hearing for these cars (outside of the red one I've found)? Thanks. 1st time Porsche buyer so want to do it right!!
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