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Replying to: habitat1 (Mar 19, 2008 4:21 am) The warranty does not cover: Batteries damaged from storage. Batteries damaged frmo lack of use. Tires damaged by road hazard. Tires damaged by premature wear. Parts that fail due to lack of maintenance. Normal wear and tear. Cleaning and polishing. Lubricants. Air conditioner refrigerant charge. Glass breakage. Vehicles with branded titles (manufacturer repurchase/repair, flood damage, totaled - both structural and constructive - salvaged, VIN altered or removed, non-North America VIN Unauthorized modifications. Wheel balancing and tires. The electrical system is covered. The central information screen is covered as well. For the amount of protection that you get from the Porsche certification, it's a no brainer to go with it. The cost on it is $1,549. Check out how much the cost would be for an extended warranty through a 3rd party and find out what kind of parts they would be using for the repairs. The Porsche certification is a no brainer. -moo |
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Thanks Habitat for some excellent advice. So I used Edmunds and priced my car with options. This set up would make me very happy. I am going the triptronic route, it gives my wife the ability to drive the car. Any must have options that I excluded? What should I expect to pay? Can I get close to my 85k price point? Moo I am a bit far from you in georgia. 2008 Porsche 911 Carrera 2dr Convertible (3.6L 6cyl 6M) Optional Equipment $11,335 $9,638 249 5-Speed Tiptronic S Transmission $3,420 $2,907 475 Porsche Active Suspension Management System $1,990 $1,692 403 19" Carrera S Wheel $1,550 $1,318 680 Bose High End Sound Package $1,390 $1,182 P74 Bi-Xenon Headlamp Package $1,090 $927 E9 Midnight Blue Metallic $690 $587 635 Parking Assist System $530 $451 342 Heated Front Seats $500 $425 CUL Windstop w/Colored "Porsche" Logo $175 $149 V9 Cabriolet Top In Black $0 $0 Destination Charge $860 $860 Total with Options msrp invoice $95,995 $83,690 And an I-pod integration kit.
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Replying to: gtmaguire (Mar 19, 2008 3:16 pm) Of course, you'll have to add taxes, etc onto the price, so you'll probably be a little over $90k on the build after it is done. I would say pay a little extra to get exactly what you want. You''ll be happy you did. Looks good though! -moo
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Replying to: madmanmoo (Mar 19, 2008 4:12 pm) There, you just knocked $4,500 off the purchase price on stuff that adds nothing to the value, performance, or enjoyment of the car. 
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Replying to: fedlawman (Mar 19, 2008 4:37 pm) Why get rid of the wheels? I truly did not take a good look at the 19's anyway. Is the look that much different? As for the sound system, is the base system good enough, I like my music loud! What option was the HID? The park assist honestly has to do with my fear of my wife driving the car and backing it up!!! Don't really trust her.
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Replying to: gtmaguire (Mar 19, 2008 4:48 pm) 2. As for the stereo, I haven't heard the Bose, but I've heard it's not worth the upgrade - and Porsche is not known for their quality hi-fi systems. Besides, you're buying a convertible sports car - how good can any music possibly sound with 70+ dB of wind, road, and engine roaring into your head? That should be music enough. 3. HID - high intensity discharge headlights. I had an Acura with them and didn't "see" any big improvement. All my current cars have halogens and they work just fine. 4. Park assist - why on earth would you EVER let your wife drive?!?!  |
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Replying to: gtmaguire (Mar 19, 2008 3:16 pm) The wife excuse is just as bad as the traffic excuse for not getting a manual transmission in an amazing car like a 911. Please give it a lot of thought before you place your order. You mentioned something a few days ago about Porsche reliability. I read somewhere (maybe Porsche's website  ) that 75% of all Porsches ever produced are still on the road today. If you check autotrader, you'll see plenty of high mileage 911s for sale that were driven and not worn or garage queens.
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Replying to: gtmaguire (Mar 19, 2008 3:16 pm) That said it's YOUR car and if that's really what you want to keep your wife happy, that's your choice. On your option choices, I'd offer three alternatives to consider: (1) Minimal options for a tight budget: - Heated seats (if you want to go top down at under 55 degrees) - Power seats w/ memory (assuming your wife is going to drive much) That's it! And you will have a car that holds its value much better than an over-optioned model, so if you want to trade up in a few years, it won't hurt you. (2) Moderate options for a little more fun/comfort ; add: - Bi-Zenon (HID) lights & Self Dim Mirrors (if you drive much at night) - Sport Chrono (the "sport" button is cheap fun, with faster throttle and breaking response) - Bose?? (test this yourself - it is a lousy system for the $1,300 they charge, but I haven't listened to the base system) I'd still forget the 19" wheels and PASM, especially if you go with a Tiptronic. The standard 18" wheels on the base car look perfectly fine. PASM isn't necessary for a smooth ride in the 18", but is for the 19". (3) Sport Alternative (if you can get your wife to drive a stick and find $5k between your sofa cushions): - Bag the tiptronic and save $3,500 - Go for the "S" model. It's $10k+ more, but that includes 19", PASM, Xenons and some other do-dads, along with the 355 hp 3.8 liter engine. You are really only paying about $5,500 for the upgraded engine. - Keep Sport Chrono - Keep heated seats. - Be selective on any other options. An easy "forget it" is the wind screen. I've never used the standard one that comes with the car. It wipes out the back seat for my daughters, golf clubs, etc. and takes up too much space in the bonnet when not in use. Again, please do yourself a favor and test drive base model 911's with a stick and tiptronic before you make your decision. If you make a mistake on the other options, no big deal. But if you have an $85k+ car that you don't find exhilerating to drive, that would be a travesty.
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Replying to: habitat1 (Mar 20, 2008 2:37 am) For the base I went: 680 Bose High End Sound Package $1,390 $1,182 P74 Bi-Xenon Headlamp Package $1,090 $927 640 Sport Chrono Package Plus $960 $816 342 Heated Front Seats $500 $425 267 Self-Dimming Mirrors $385 $327 For the S I went with 640 Sport Chrono Package Plus $960 $816 $960 E9 Midnight Blue Metallic $690 $587 $690 342 Heated Front Seats $500 $425 $500 For the C4 Optional Equipment $3,540 $3,010 680 Bose High End Sound Package $1,390 $1,182 640 Sport Chrono Package Plus $960 $816 E9 Midnight Blue Metallic $690 $587 342 Heated Front Seats $500 $425 I eliminated on the C4 the lighting package
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Replying to: gtmaguire (Mar 20, 2008 3:06 pm) The Cab starts out about 200 lbs heavier than the coupe, so it's not quite as quick or nimble. My dealer claims that the "4", with another 150+/- lbs of weight and a "drive train power loss" of 5%+/- is like losing 30hp off the engine (the equivalent of the difference between the S and base). So, of the various 911 configurations, ranked in terms of quickness, a base C4 would be lowest, C2 and C4S about equal in the middle, C2S highest. As for rain handling, the "4" will obviously be better. But I have been pleasantly surprised as to how well my C2S handles medium to heavy rain on the highway. It is as stable as my FWD Acura TL and way better than my former Honda S2000. I don't try to push the car under those conditions, but for wet weather (not snow) I find the "2" satisfactory. I don't drive it in the snow period, and even the "4" would require winter tires if that was your intent. On the appearance, without seeing the model designation on the rear, I would have almost as much difficulty telling the difference in width between a C4 and C2S as I would be able to tell that the "S" is a couple of centimeters lower than the base C4. A lot of dealers promote the "more aggressive" look of the "4" but when I asked one of them to pick out the "4"'s out of a line of 911's from the front/side, he embarassed himself with several mistakes. Unless you stongly prefer the driving feel and/or are going to use the AWD system a lot, I think the price of the "4" (including lower fuel economy and added maintenance), is difficult to justify on "looks". And, like I said, I actually find the "2" to be more nimble, quick and fun to drive on dry roads. The "S" is a budget issue. I think it gives you a lot of bang for the buck, with Xenon, PASM, etc. in addition to 30 more horsepower. But if it puts you in an uncomfrtable price point, forget it. The base car with 325 hp is still 100% 911 behind the wheel. I'm out for several days for the Easter holiday. I'll check back next week if you want my opinions on anything else. But remember, they are just my opinions and your's are what is most important. Fortunaely, Porche makes enough 911 variations to satisfy just about everybody.
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