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Replying to: gtmaguire (Mar 05, 2008 4:57 pm) I'm the one with the "rain issue". Fully resolved with a new controller unit and new carpeting/liner, but my insurance company had to pick up the tab. If you don't have a garage, you should plan on getting a cover (California Car Cover) . Unfortunately, on that instance it had started raining before I had a chance to cover mine. Rare occurance that the cowl drains overflow, but it does happen. I have 18,000 miles on my 911 in 2.5 years. That compares with less than 10,000 miles during the same time in my Acura TL. It can be driven daily. But I would not want to rely on it exclusively, nor drive it for repeated short trips - and never during break in. On the "less than 10k miles" on a potential used car, be careful on that hard and fast rule. I have consistently heard from experts that you DON'T want a car that is a garage queen that may have sat for extended periods or, worse, been used for primarily short hops, without proper break in and a good mix of highway use. I was extremely anal about the break in on my car, following the recommendation of driving it a minimum of 20+ minutes every time the car was started for the first 1,000 miles. I have also intentionally used it for a few 750 mile highway roundtrips to give it a heavy highway balance of mileage. If you go the used route, try your best to confirm that the car was properly broken in and that you are comfortable with how it was driven. That's more important than the miles on the odometer, IMO. We are in the process of building a new house with a third tandem space in the garage for the 911. Unfortunately, I keep getting talked into more stonework by the mason and went solid cherry/mahogony for every inch of wood in the house. Frank Lloyd Wright would be proud, but I may need to sell the 911 to pay for my home excesses.  Interested?  Good luck. |
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Replying to: gtmaguire (Mar 05, 2008 4:57 pm) Regarding the "back seat", never mind. Your 1 and 3 year olds may fit back there for the next 6 months but that's about it. Consider this car nothing more than a 2 seat sports car. As long as your bride has given you the green light, go for it, but keep the Range Rover.
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Hi -- I have a potential opportunity to purchase a one owner '06 911 Cabriolet (Silver/Black) with 13k miles. Warranty runs in 9/09. I'm getting the options list but think it is moderately optioned -- not totally base model, but not all the bells and whistles either. Asking price is $69k but I think they will sell for $65k or lower. I am in Los Angeles area. What is reasonable pricing for this car? Is this a good deal, a so-so deal or a screaming good deal? Can I expect to get it for low $60s or is that pushing it? Thanks for any and all input!!
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Replying to: sborowski (Mar 06, 2008 10:19 am) Don't tell that to my daughters. They have logged at least 6,000 miles in the backseat over the past 2+ years. I'm 5'7" and my wife is 5'1" so that obviously helps a lot, but my 12 year old is now 5'2" and we get no complaints from her when she sits behind my wife. I have a friend who is 6', wife is 5'6" and their two smallish 7 & 9 year olds fit reasonably well, although they are at the limit. Frankly, I probably wouldn't have bought a 911 S Cab, if it wasn't for the back seat. Great car for sure, but the Cayman S would probably be preferable to me as a pure 2 seater, especially given the price difference. And on the other end of the spectrum, I had an opportunity to pick up a Ferrari 360 at a decent price, as well. But, for us, the 911 makes a great family car on the weekends and a heck of a soprts car for me the other 70% of the time.
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Replying to: gocard1 (Mar 07, 2008 11:37 am) My 2005 is the same "age", with the 4 year warranty through 9/09. I have a few more miles (18,000). But mine is the "S" model ($10k more than the base) and is fairly loaded w/ $13k+ in options ($102.8k MSRP). I have been told by my dealer that when the weather breaks here in the next month or two, I should be able to get around $70-73k privately. The only advantage the one you are looking at is the model year, but there were no changes at all between the 2005 and 2006 and, as it turns out, they are the same age as far as the warranty goes. I think the low 60's is the right price for the one you are considering. |
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Replying to: habitat1 (Mar 07, 2008 3:55 pm) She says just buy the Porsche. The price is an obstacle for me. I buy my cars outright and I have a hard time with going over 85 thousand. Particularly since I am buying her a new Range Rover Sport. 150 thousand for two cars cars really bothers my Irish frugality... and yes I know that sounds ridiculous......  So. If you had to choose a used 911 cabriolet for $85k or less and a 2004 Land Rover Discovery as your back up car, or a new fully loaded 08' Range Rover. (don't forget the two kids) What would you do? Ok, I have also looked into a used 2007 Maserati $84K, my wife thinks they are boring.  Oh and I am 5'9, wife is 5'3", thanks habitat1, I had almost started to rule out the Porsche. You have given me hope! Also for amusement purposes only: wife to me"you can't do anything in moderation ever", my response "Moderation is for quitters!"
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Replying to: gtmaguire (Mar 07, 2008 5:17 pm) If your kids fit in the 911, then go with it! |
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Replying to: gtmaguire (Mar 07, 2008 5:17 pm) But having something that nice and brand new, which is yours from the get-go, has a definite allure.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Mar 08, 2008 9:06 am) Wife is getting her RR Sport anyway soooooo..... Going to the dealership on Sunday to take a 911 for a drive and start the process.  So, I am still on the fence about the new or used thing. I could do a new coupe without pushing my psychological threshold of 85k, but I really want the conv. Suggestions? I think leasing may not be right for me, but I wanted to hear if anyone had a different view on it. I plan on keeping the car for three to five years. I am planning on buying the car outright. But, I was wondering if in three years or so if I want to get a new one does the car retain more value as a trade in or if I just leased? Or which is more realistic and honestly more likely, I will have to get a sedan or another SUV, with having older bigger kids, I may just have to sell it anyway (or hide it from my wife somewhere!). I went to the Porsche website and did a three year 12k mile lease for 54,000 total payments. I also wanted to know what to expect about the negotiation in the dealership. I have looked at cars.com and carsdirect and they both basically list the MSRP price as the price of the vehilce. What should I expect when it comes to haggling over the price of the car? I was planning on going to about 4 or 5 dealerships to compare pricing. Oh, sorry for the length of my posts, but thanks for the advice that you folks have given me. I hope to have my car by April 
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Replying to: gtmaguire (Mar 08, 2008 6:38 pm) Leasing: It sounds like you are somewhat similar to me. I always pay cash for my cars, figuring I'll bite the bullet once and be done with it. If I was looking at a BMW I might consider leasing, as they offer great lease rates/subsidies. Porsche doesn't. I would have been stroking a check for about $1,600 per month on mine and that would have taken some of the fun out of it for me. Coupe vs. Cab: Where do you live? Climate? As I said, my purchse of the 911 was based on it being a sports car the whole family can enjoy. The Cab does run $10k more than the coupe, but the joy of driving around on a nice day with the top down and the girls hair flowing in the wind is priceless. The coupe is more of a track ready car (no added roll bars required), but for public road fun, the Cab is hard to beat. Base vs. S: The initial cost difference looks like $10k, but the S gives you Xenon, PASM, 19" wheels and a couple of other goodies in addition to the more powerful engine. Net difference for the engine is about $5,400. After driving a base 911 a few weeks ago, I think the S is worth it. If you go the base route, I would seriously consider the PASM (Adjustable suspension) option. The base car I drove was harsh over bumps compared to my "normal" setting, but still not as tight around the curves as the S set to "sport". Noticable difference. Price negotiation: Good news, Porsche sales are down 12% so far this year and the lousy economy/stock market is on your side. Also, the 997 model has now been out for awhile, compared to when I bought. Bad news, we are heading into prime spring season for buying a Cab, so dealers might be less inclined to heavily discount. I picked up my 2005 off the showroom floor in September 2005 as the 2006's were on the boat. Perfect time to negotiate - and I got a decent discount off from a dealer in Baltimore. But even at that time, some of the DC area dealers were trying to hold to near MSRP. Use Porsche's website to check out dealer inventory online, before you walk in. Options: Don't get bent out of shape over the 20 page option list. If you are oredering a new car, keep it simple. My car: 2005 997 S Cab, Seal grey, Black Leather Seats, Power memory seats, Navigation, Bose, 6-CD changer, Porsche Sport Exhaust, Sport Chrono, heated seats, self dim mirrors, etc. Current MSRP for an identical 2008 model = $107,385. New 9/27/05 (29+ months). 18,200 miles. Broken-in to perfection. My daughters will kill me if I sell it, but the stone mason is tempting me with added ideas (costs) for our new house. So slip me $ 72,995 and I'll even split you on the cost of an extended warranty to take you past a new car warranty! But you have to take care of it and give me a right of first refual to buy it back when you are done in 3-5 years.
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