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Porsche 911, Porsche Carrera GT, Coupe, Convertible
#1231 of 2175 Re: Targa Questions [kennygoodboy]
Dec 30, 2006 (9:23 am)
First off, bravo to you for buying a Porsche at such a young age. I bought a 2000 Boxster a few years back at about the same age of 32. Granted it was a much smaller commitment for me to make, but it truly is one of the best decisions I've made (other than to marry my wife, of course). Despite it's age now, I've even gone so far as to ship it overseas with me to the Netherlands. My dream (aka extended plan) is to buy a 911 at some point when we return to the US. Anyway, this response is about you, not me.
Sports Seats: I recommend them. Based on your height and weight, I'm guessing you and I are a similar build. While you are likely to put on weight over time, I think you'll find the Sport Seats fit well and are a bit nicer compliment to the sporty nature of the car. As another response went, I agree that you should go for the Adaptive Sport Seats, especially for the infinite adjustment potential. I have dual power seats in my Boxster, but wish I also had the Sport Seats.
Crests: I'm not a fan of the look and I think it is a good example of an obnoxiously priced option. If you invest the $400 - $500 for twenty years it very well could be a nice down payment on your next Porsche.
C2 vs. C4: I'm thinking through the same. I love the look of the wider rear but clearly that's secondary to the car's feel. If you are really keeping it for such a long time I also think you need to consider the potential for problems w/ the car. I'm too lazy to look it up but you might only be able to get the targa w/ a C2 configuration, in which case this is a mute point. If you can go w/ a C2, I honestly would do that. Definitely spring for the S, in my opinion. Well worth it in the short and long run.
Targa: I'm expecting to buy a hardtop myself. I figure the sunroof is enough and over the long haul will likely prove the best overall. I love the boxster top but find myself rarely taking the time to open it up. Previous targas have leaked, in some cases quite badly. Not sure this one will, but the next twenty years is a really long time.
Colors: Black or not black. I have a lot of friends who have regretted buying a black car. I think the best color you can buy is silver...it is timeless and withstands the tests of time (i.e. durability) very well. I plan on either white (rather plain, I know) or silver. I plan to either buy HRE wheels or order the dark gray wheels if I conclude the silver is too uniform w/ the standard wheels.
I wish you the best of luck and am certain whatever choices you will make will prove to provide a great return for many years. Take care!
#1232 of 2175 Re: Targa Questions [spiritinthesky]
Dec 30, 2006 (2:23 pm)
Thanks for the response! Very helpful. Some comments back...
Thanks for the info for the 4 and S. Since I am "in love" with the Targa, I dont really have a choice to go without the 4 but i guess it cant hurt since i am Chicago.
Re: color. I can only assume you mean that black will show every little mark, scratch, dirt, etc. Good thing i am single!
Re: other options. I cant find that damn sport shifter option anywhere! I looked under "Performance" but wasnt there (couldnt find it anywhere else as well). Also, not getting the CD changer because my dealer has some aftermarket guy to install an ipod hookup (truly bizarre the factory doesnt offer it on a $100k car).
One more thing...I am just a moron for accepting sticker price? I called two dealers and i got the "only 1,800-2,000 Targas are being built worldwide, you are lucky to get one at all" type of response.
#1233 of 2175 Re: Targa Questions [kennygoodboy]
Dec 30, 2006 (2:32 pm)
spiritinthesky and amhjms pretty much covered what I would have said.
Although, I have to ask, with all of the options you are planning - and those suggested by spirit - aren't you getting up into the $110-115k range (MSRP)? I'm not sure what kind of discount you can get on a custom ordered Targa 4S since they are still new, but that MSRP is "only" $20k short of a loaded Turbo. Sorry, had to tempt you with that thought.
#1234 of 2175 Re: Targa Questions [habitat1]
Dec 30, 2006 (2:48 pm)
Ha, thanks for the temptation! My MSRP is currently $108k (most i ever paid for a car? My 96 Mustang Cobra at $18,600). And yes, that is $22k short of a comparably equipped Turbo. And you are right, i am currently getting a zero % discount. sweet. BUT, my view is that i dont even want the Turbo. Yes, that will ban me from this board but i truly dont like the spoiler and side air intakes. It's a little..."much" for me. I mean, everyone is different and Spirit diplomatically stated he thinks the Targa is ok but seems like he wanted the ultra performance of the Turbo (seems logical to me). As for myself, i love the trim of the Targa and since the performance is 100x better than anything i have ever driven, well, its definitely the car for me. As the Turbo is the car for Spirit. And look at that - 2 very happy Porsche customers!
#1235 of 2175 Re: Targa Questions [kennygoodboy]
Dec 30, 2006 (2:53 pm)
I just caught your response to spiritinthesky.
I forgot to add my 2 cents that black will be a tough color to keep looking good for two years, let alone 20. The metallic blacks are a little better, but in addition to remaining single, you'll need to have a tolerance for swirl marks.
The factory sport shifter is $765. Shortens the throws a little. It can be done after the fact - my dealer would charge roughly $800 in total, parts and labor.
Now, on paying full MSRP for a Targa 4S. Ouch. That's what my local dealers told me in the spring of 2005 on a Cab. I waited 4-5 months and picked up a new 2005 in September for a $10k discount. Worth the wait to me. But I wasn't convinced I'd keep the car for more than 2-3 years and didn't want to get double dinged on resale. If you really plan on keeping the car for a decade or more, that's a different story.
Dec 30, 2006 (3:53 pm)
I think each one of us loves the Porsche we ordered/bought. I prefer a Cab so that's what I have. I like AWD and those big wide hips so I have a C4. I think black is the sexiest color on a P-car (when it's clean) BUT I wanted to also have some semblance of a life (a black car is very time consuming which gets old after a while) so mine is Seal Grey. Bottom line, get what your heart & brain tell you and if anything sounds silly (a.k.a. just plain dumb) I think someone here will probably tell you, nicely.
You're young enough that you probably know how to burn your own MP3s. (Hell, I'm 61 and I know how!) If I'm right, and you do, the CD changer is not only a waste of money, the CD changer does NOT play MP3s while the single CD player does.
Dec 31, 2006 (9:26 am)
Hello to all-have enjoyed the discussions for a long time. First time buyer, looking to get a C4 for the added benefit in snow/bad weather ridden minnesota (though compared to Denver, its been mild this year). I know tires make more of a difference than 4 wheel drive, but I have limited space to store snow tires (which all discussions and dealers recommend for below freezing temps). What are thoughts on using all season tires (18") throughout the year as this will be my daily driver (vs 2 sets of tires). Looked at a BMW 6series with all seasons tires, but the 911 is unquestionably the better car, and more true to its intended spirit.
#1238 of 2175 Re: C4 questions [outdrguy]
Jan 01, 2007 (8:17 am)
Is this "daily driver" going to be your only car? In Minnesota?
My advice to you would be to plan on getting another vehicle to use in the worst weather. Even a C4 with snow tires isn't going to plow through 4-6+ inches of fresh snow without some problems. And even if it could, the wear and tear of subjecting a $75k+ sports car to winter road hazards, chips, dings, salt, etc. would, in my opinion, more than justify the cost of a second used car or SUV to use during bad weather conditions.
#1239 of 2175 C4S / C2S /or Turbo S (2005) Got the Turbo S!
Jan 01, 2007 (10:14 am)
Thanks for all your help a few weeks ago! I made the decision and bought the 2005 Turbo S with only 980 miles. It's GT Silver & Black interior!
Look forward to telling you more about the driving experience after some miles.
Thanks again for all your help, it really helped me as a "newbie".
PS:Now looking for hardtop that will fit the Turbo S and in same color. Anyone know one I can pick up?
#1240 of 2175 Re: C4 questions [habitat1]
Jan 01, 2007 (10:25 am)
You're right, for extreme weather conditions I would have to have another "snow car." The ground clearance alone on the 911 wouldn't make it in significant snow, and I wouldn't take a chance on an expensive car.
However, I wanted to try to avoid having to store and change 2 sets of tires yearly (since I don't have the space). And I thought that a very good set of ultra high performance all season tires (ie Pirelli PzeroNero M&S) could allow me to enjoy driving my C4 at least 10 months out of the year in a variable weather region.