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#75 of 317 Re: Current market pricing [oldbob] by hammen2 Feb 19, 2005 (5:21 am)
Replying to: oldbob (Feb 19, 2005 5:04 am) Seems a litle high. Of course, the 6 speed cars are very rare/in demand. Also not sure of the value of the rims (are the tires the same, or are the rims bigger? If they are the stockers chromed, this cost the dealership $600-$800). Each dealer got a $5k payout from GM. So, figure invoice of 31,2, take off the 5k, and then maybe add something for the rims. Don't forget they are still making the 3% holdback on the cars (helps overcome the floor plan on the cars) - some dealers are dipping into this (A4 cars invoiced for 31,7, lots of dealers willing to sell for 24-25k). Again, though, you probably can't find too many sticks still on the lots since they are more in demand.
#76 of 317 Just bought an 04 by brushbandit Feb 20, 2005 (4:37 pm)
Picked up an 04 A4 Impulse Blue for 9K under invoice, $24495. Corvette drivetrain in a very nice car for Grand Am money. I couldn't pass it up. So far I love it. Replies to this message: reuel3 (Feb 21, 2005 11:13 am) brushbandit (Feb 22, 2005 4:57 am)
#77 of 317 Re: Just bought an 04 [brushbandit] by reuel3 Feb 21, 2005 (11:13 am)
Replying to: brushbandit (Feb 20, 2005 4:37 pm) brushbandit,   Congratulations on your purchase. Could you let us know your dealership name? That way others who are shopping in the same area can benefit. Replies to this message: brushbandit (Feb 22, 2005 4:57 am)
#78 of 317 Re: Just bought an 04 [reuel3] by brushbandit Feb 22, 2005 (4:57 am)
Replying to: reuel3 (Feb 21, 2005 11:13 am) Yes, I bought it at Key Pontiac in Bethlehem,Pa. They still have 2 black 04 M6, Silver 04 A4, and a yellow 04 M6 with a Ram Air fiberglass hood the dealer installed. Obviously, they are very motivated to move all of them.
#79 of 317 2005 gto by oldbob Feb 23, 2005 (2:21 pm)
Has anyone actually bought a new 2005 gto 5spd? What did you really pay? Replies to this message: hammen2 (Feb 23, 2005 8:03 pm)
#80 of 317 Re: 2005 gto [oldbob] by hammen2 Feb 23, 2005 (8:03 pm)
Replying to: oldbob (Feb 23, 2005 2:21 pm) I have not, but have read of others doing so. It's fairly common to pay $500 over invoice. I see you're on Long Island - contact Arnold Pontiac, as they are advertising on another site that they have 10 2005's and are willing to sell for $500 over invoice (invoice is around $31,200, add the $500, then any advertising/dealer services fees, and tax/title/license fees).
#81 of 317 2005 Quicksilver/Red by oldgoatee Feb 27, 2005 (3:23 pm)
Thought that I would share my Goat hunting adventure just in case it gives someone else some hints. I wanted only a particular combo: ‘05 Quicksilver/Red with 6-speed. Got on pontiac.com and used the “Locate Vehicle” feature to search all dealerships within a comfortable day’s round trip from home. Only found 3 such cars to my spec, 2 about 3 hours away, and 1 about 5 hours away. Then used the “Request a Quote” feature from the “Window Sticker” page to contact each dealer about each car.   First step was to find out if the dealer was willing to do the GM Supplier Discount that my employer makes possible. For the 6-speeder, list is $33,690, invoice is $31,192, and the Supplier Discount price is $31,653 (for comparison, the GM Employee, which I ain’t, price is $30,293). The two closest dealers (of course) were “uncooperative”. One refused to honor the GM Discount (his firm price was $32,690, which suggests that’s the current non-greedy ’05 price, effectively a $1000 discount from MSRP for anyone). The second didn’t seem to be too internet-savvy, originally responded to “your parts request” (huhh?), then was very slow to respond to questions.   The third (farthest away, of course) dealer was the most responsive. All my questions via e-mail and phone were answered promptly. He honored the Supplier Discount price without hesitation. Plus I wanted the inset front nose grilles from the Sport Appearance Package, which he had in stock and agreed to provide at his cost ($235 with free installation). Finally, he had no problem reducing the “documentation fee” (that popular all-purpose rip-off) to the maximum $75 allowed by the GM program regulations. On top of everything else, GMAC currently has a 0% APR 36-month loan on the GTO, which makes no sense if I understand where Mr. Greenspan is headed, but I’m not one to turn down free money.   So I made a verbal agreement with this third dealer, requested the grille package installation, gave some credit information over the phone, and agreed to pick up the car in a couple of days. Showed up two days later, our GTO was waiting for us right out front, my wife and I went over the whole thing with a fine tooth-comb, the Goat looked great (that SAP grille package on the Quicksilver car looks absolutely spectacular). I kept on waiting for the “games” to begin. But there was absolutely no BS – everything was exactly as had been verbally agreed to. Signed all the waiting paperwork and jumped into the GTO for the dreamy 5 hour drive home. Top notch professionalism throughout.   So who WAS this dealer? Bob King Pontiac/GMC in Wilmington, NC. Never been there before – a really big dealership. When I last checked, they had 7 (or more?) ’05 GTOs in stock, and only 1 ’04 GTO left (which means they were not stupid with last year’s GTO prices). I recommend them highly and have no connection with them (they are so far away from me I can’t even get my oil changed there).
#82 of 317 RE: Up front lease [mattress] by billy_goat Feb 27, 2005 (4:39 pm)
Replying to: mattress (Dec 29, 2004 5:27 pm) Do you happen to know if the up-front payment is only available at the purchase time or if it can happen soon after? I signed a 1-3-5 lease and don't remember the option. The deal was still a great one 'though.
#83 of 317 oldgoatee by gmhellman Feb 27, 2005 (7:42 pm)
The GTO you purchased sounds absolutely awesome. Do you have pictures that you can post....can't afford a GTO nor do I have the lifestyle for one. (wife and kid I do love them, but cannot ask for their sacrifice so I can drive a sweet ride. So I ask to vicaiously live through your photos, if you are able to provide them. Replies to this message: oldgoatee (Feb 28, 2005 12:48 pm)
#84 of 317 Re: oldgoatee [gmhellman] by oldgoatee Feb 28, 2005 (12:48 pm)
Replying to: gmhellman (Feb 27, 2005 7:42 pm) Greg, I hear you. Half a lifetime ago, I was at the same place. Don't despair, time (and depreciation!) are working for you. In 5 years' time, there should be a bunch of affordable GTOs out there. Lots of them will have had only one old f*rt, engineer, previous owner who has gotten too senile to slam 400 HP through the gearbox. Maybe you'll be my car's second owner?   I haven't taken any photos yet - it's been raining since I got the GTO on Friday. After I get some photos into my home page, I'll post the link. I don't like the usual canned photos of the car - they are all shot from too low an angle (IMHO). The car's elegant lines looks best from a normal standing height.

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