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Re: Pontiac GTO: Prices Paid & Buying Experience [kirstie_h] by thesixtys4me
Jan 31, 2007 (8:12 am)
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Replying to: kirstie_h (Oct 02, 2004 11:50 am)

I Purchased A New BLK/Blk GTO Automatic W/18"Wheels.At A Decent Cash Price Of $27,500.Del.1100Mi. To Fl.On It's 1st Trip It Suffered A Major Total Breakdown,Would Not Start.Flatbedded To An Inbred Georgia Dealership.Who Refused Me A Loaner Car,Even After GM Stepped In & Requested I Be Given One.We Borrowed A Car From A Friend & Returned Home.We Called The Dealership Daily,They ordered A New Computor For The car & The Replacement That Came In Was Defective Also.Finally after 7 Days We Drove Back 515 Miles & Picked Up The Car that Was Covered In Dried Mud From Roof To Wheels.They Reluctantly Did A Quick Wash On The Car,& We Drove It Uneventfully Back Home....Here We Sit Waiting To Hear From GM On Their GTO BuyBack Program.Their Verbal Stance Is The Car Is Eligible For Their Factory Buyback.
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Re: Pontiac GTO: Prices Paid & Buying Experience [thesixtys4me] by zq8
Jan 31, 2007 (8:19 am)
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Replying to: thesixtys4me (Jan 31, 2007 8:12 am)

If the new computer fixed it, why do you want a buy-back on it?
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use the torque, Luke by elias
Feb 01, 2007 (4:10 pm)
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Replying to: thesixtys4me (Jan 31, 2007 8:12 am)

sixties4you guy, no loaner car during that? that is bizarre. what slackers at that dealership. but then again you did go with that DNA test up front, possibly not the best way to establish a good customer relationship. hey, i'm just sayin.
dried mud? were they dirt-tracking your car? ouch. that's gonna leave a mark! (did it?)
on the bright side you got a fine price and wild story, great datapoints for this esteemed GTO prices/experience forum! and your price was for an automatic with 18s, and including gasguzzler tax? YOU DA MAN.
now get out there and enjoy the car already why don't ya!?
torque can heal your wounds. u
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Re: Pontiac GTO: Prices Paid & Buying Experience [thesixtys4me] by dat2
Feb 01, 2007 (11:06 pm)
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Replying to: thesixtys4me (Jan 31, 2007 8:12 am)

yeah, where did all that mud come from???
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Have you checked CA prices? by teachermann
Apr 12, 2007 (11:14 pm)
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Replying to: hammen2 (Jul 26, 2005 9:54 am)

yes, I'm looking for a used LS2 GTO. Here is the Bay Area you can get brand new '06 GTO's for less than dealer cost. Stevens Creek Pontiac - $33K sticker - buy any one of about 15 for $26K! So why am I seeing prices for used '05's for that much?
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Re: Have you checked CA prices? [teachermann] by elias
Apr 13, 2007 (8:49 am)
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Replying to: teachermann (Apr 12, 2007 11:14 pm)

hi teacherman. unless you own the dealership or are the business/contract manager there, you really cannot know the dealer cost for any of the new vehicles they sell. such is private contractual info between dealer & manufacturer.
but that nitpick aside: $26k sounds like a great price for a new 06!
as to why you are seeing similar prices for used 05s, i suppose that's because sellers can "dream" and ask any price they want.
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Re: Have you checked CA prices? [elias] by vinnyny
Apr 25, 2007 (8:49 pm)
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Replying to: elias (Apr 13, 2007 8:49 am)

such is private contractual info between dealer & manufacturer
 
Just curious, but what's private about invoice - holdback? Are you suggesting that GM is making special secret deals with their dealers? If not, then dealer cost is relatively simple to determine. Any automotive website (including this one) will give you invoice price, manufacturer incentives, and holdback information.
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Re: Have you checked CA prices? [vinnyny] by elias
Apr 26, 2007 (5:57 am)
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Replying to: vinnyny (Apr 25, 2007 8:49 pm)

hey there NY Vinny.
first i must mention the 4 back to back home runs. too bad the half hour of loudest-ever Y-S cheers were not broadcast by ESPN !
and now to the subject at hand: i didn't say that either invoice or holdback are private. i said the vehicle cost to the dealer is private and is set by a private contract between dealer and manufacturer. YES, dealers do make these "special secret deals" with the manufacturer. There is nothing wrong with this - it is totally legit. Private contracts are indeed legal in USA.
Typically the more cars the dealer sells in one year, the lower they can negotiate their per-vehicle dealer-cost for the next year. The actual dealer cost of a vehicle is known in some circles as the "dealer memo price".
to get something here about the actual price of GTOs - anyone out there purchased a 2006 lately - please tell us what you paid? i continue to be astonished at the incredible quality & performance of my 05 GTO. I paid invoice price minus GM card $3000 for my 05: $27068.
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Re: Have you checked CA prices? [elias] by vinnyny
Apr 26, 2007 (6:56 am)
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Replying to: elias (Apr 26, 2007 5:57 am)

Elias:
 
As a long-suffering Mets fan, 4 back-to-back jacks versus the Yankees is like Christmas in April.
 
As to private pricing between manufacturers and individual dealers, I'm pretty skeptical that GM can charge different prices to different dealers for the same product. The auto industry is pretty heavily regulated by the Feds. I know that sales volume affects allocation of vehicles, but I think that pricing is an entirely different issue.
 
Even if GM can charge different prices to different dealers, I wouldn't even think of buying a car without seeing the invoice. Any dealer who refused to show me the invoice would not get my business.
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Re: Have you checked CA prices? [vinnyny] by elias
Apr 26, 2007 (7:12 am)
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Replying to: vinnyny (Apr 26, 2007 6:56 am)

I hear ya, Vinny the Mets fan! I hope Pedro rehabs nicely and also that he buys a Pontiac GTO for a good price. (gotta relate this to GTO prices somehow).
Invoice price is available via edmunds.com , so you can always see that. But as I've alleged, that's not the price the dealer really pays to the manufacturer. Thankfully private contracts in USA are not(yet) as regulated as you are apparently surmising.
My info about this comes from an industry source who is most familiar with Ford/Mazda. GM could well have a different approach to these private contracts than Ford. Or maybe the situation/policies/private-contracts have changed since I last talked to my industry source a few years ago.

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