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SAME FOR ME....MPARIS1 by mparis1
Mar 31, 2005 (8:01 pm)
yes some dealers in new york the same crap........"no test drive because it had "performance tires"..... no test drive...."dead batteries"............please stop the crap.............finally bougt one in brooklyn,ny he ad to get it from new jersey............knew nothing about the cat...had to teach him to get a grille inserts..............afterwards he admitted too much bother with such a machine and will not orde anmymore...wow.....no wonder the GTO IS DEAD.
DROVE IT 2 DAYS NOW.....................WHAT A MACHINE.EVEN HOLE -SHOTTED A NEW DODGE VIPER....just keep the tractiopn control off,,,,,,,,,,,theguy wanted to know what car it was ...said it is a GTO...HE NEVER SAW ONE..............PONTIAC CERTAINLY BLEW IT.....
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Dealers by hammen2
Mar 31, 2005 (9:33 pm)
I can attest to the fact that the batteries on the GTO are weak. Mine on my replacement car was dead when I went to pick the car up. It also seemd to be weeping... took it out when I stored my car. Less than a month later, it was leaking on my workbench. Just picked up an Optima Red Top 134R battery (friend of a friend drives a battery truck all day, got a great price) which I'll be putting in my GTO tomorrow.
 
Regarding the lack of test drives, I would have immediately asked to speak to the General Manager. That attitude is ridiculous, especially on the '04s. A couple of possible reasons why they may not have wanted to do the test-drive:
 
1) Today was the 31st. They wanted to do any deals ASAP so they could book them this month. Thought you might be a window-shopper and not a serious buyer, so they didn't want to take the time/blew you off.
2) There are very few 6-speed '04's left on dealer lots. A4 cars are not a problem...
 
Of course, you can just go to another dealership. I wouldn't let this one bad experience turn you away from considering this car. Don't know if calling Pontiac and complaining would, but nothing beats buying the car elsewhere, and stopping by to show the new car to the salesman who blew you off
 
--Robert
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Re: Bad Dealer Experience [rob999] by rob999
Apr 01, 2005 (6:31 am)

Replying to: rob999 (Mar 31, 2005 1:03 pm)

I've not written off the GTO by any means. There are plenty of Pontiac dealers in the suburban Chicago area - I just won't go to back to Napleton / Schaumburg. I've never experienced anything like yesterday at any other dealer, period, especially the "are you going to buy TODAY" crap. He offered to let me actually "SIT" in the showroom car (wow!), but I was so pissed at the time I just turned and walked.
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Re: Bad Dealer Experience [rob999] by jontyrees
Mar 31, 2005 (2:09 am)

Replying to: rob999 (Apr 01, 2005 6:31 am)

Completely different story for me in Austin TX at Champion. Went in on Friday around 5.30pm, had a nice chat with their Internet sales guy, then went for a test drive, during which he told me that on that particular stretch of road, his buddy took it up to xxxmph on another test drive - "I knew he would". I told him I was definitely interested, but that my wife would have to come by for a drive and to see if the car fit her, (she's 5'2", and it's a manual). "No problem - want to take it home? You can keep it overnight if you like"
 
They were great - we liked it and had them bring in one in our color preference at the same price. Just a good allaround buying experience. Plus they didn't give me a hard time about the crease my wife put in the rim of the test car on a bank drive through curb - doh!
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Re: Bad Dealer Experience [rob999] by sputterguy
Apr 02, 2005 (5:03 pm)

Replying to: rob999 (Mar 31, 2005 1:03 pm)

That's why there are lots of '04's left on the lots. That attitude. I guess some Dealers just don't learn. Here in San Jose I never took a test drive because they wouldn't come off their Dealer Markup. But they did offer to let me test drive one. Heck, they practically begged me to drive one. Of course I did pull into the Dealer in my pristine '98 GTP with 45K miles on it. They were practically falling over themselves offering me stuff. Everything but moving off the Dealer Markup. I finally found a Dealer in Colma that was selling for $500 over invoice. I must have driven 5 or 6 different GTOs before I decided on a Silver 6-speed. That was when the leases first came out. So I went for the lease. And before the deal was complete, the first $2K incentive came out. So I have a 4 year lease at $402 per month and I put $800 down.
 
Sorry I ended up talking about my buying experience. My advice to you is to find another dealer. And be patient. They will be coming out with incentives at some point.
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Incentives by hammen2
Apr 02, 2005 (7:50 pm)
Pontiac sold 1375 GTO's last month, with the only incentive being the $1k "March Madness" which did not apply to any 2005's (cars had to be on the lots I think 120 days). I don't know the breakdown of '04's and '05's, but, at only 12k/yr, and March still being a bad weather month for half of the U.S., I wouldn't be so sure that we'll see much in the way of incentives on the '05s. Not going to see any new incentives on the '04's, I wouldn't think.
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Just bought a Cyclone Gray 05 6 Speed in Lynn, MA by oakster
Apr 03, 2005 (6:05 pm)
You do need to shop around. Went to one dealer in MA this Saturday that wanted to sell me a car w/150 miles of test drives. They were great and let me drive the car w/no problems. I was serious about buying the car and wanted to deal but they wanted too much money. Sales people were great but the sales manager didn't want to budge. He told me the car was rare and there were several other dealers trying to get this car that would pay at least what I was offering. The GTOs seem to be finally moving but this was too much of a line for me. Would have paid what he was asking if the car had no miles but everyone wants to drive these cars for the thrill but few end up buying one.
 
Pontiacs site shows all the inventory at dealers in the area so I walked and drove 15 minutes to the next dealer that had the same car I was looking for (cyclone gray 6 speed). Walked into Pride Pontiac in Lynn, MA 5:30pm. Was greeted by a nice salesman. Told him what I wanted to pay, he asked me to write a check for the deposit to show him I was serious which I did. Went to his sales manager who told him the car was on the site but still in transit. Spent 5 minutes with the sales manager and we negotiated a great deal. Paid hundreds less and I get a car right off the truck instead of a 150 mile demo. One of the quickest deals they have made in a while. I feel for the sales reps at the other dealer b/c the manager lost a quick sale.
 
These are great cars and I wouldn't expect any major incentives because they are starting to move despite zero positive press.
 
Had another dealership I drive by everyday tell me when I first went in to just look at the car that they weren't sitting on the lot for more than 48 hours. I laughed b/c I drive by everyday and the same exact cars are still there. Sold one or two but not w/in 48 hours.
 
Shop around is my advice but don't expect them to be giving the 2005s away.
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Re: Incentives [hammen2] by sputterguy
Apr 07, 2005 (1:30 pm)

Replying to: hammen2 (Apr 02, 2005 7:50 pm)

I know, the '05s seem to be selling well. I'm just hoping there will be something in the way of incentives so I don't have to pay to much of a premium to get into an '05.
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Re: Incentives [sputterguy] by sensai
Apr 07, 2005 (2:27 pm)

Replying to: sputterguy (Apr 07, 2005 1:30 pm)

There is a $1000 off on the 05s now, but unless you can get financing close to as low as GMAC was offering through the end of March (0% on 36 months, 3.9% on 60 months), then it actually comes out to more than before...
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My Experience by lowflier
Apr 10, 2005 (7:32 am)
I just had a great buying experience yesterday on an '05 Yellow/Black A4. They had no problem letting me test drive. I found it with 22 miles on the clock and put another 9 on during the drive. I kept this newborn to no more than 3500 rpm (even though the dealer told me not to be afraid to "drive" it). 3500 rpm had me merging on the highway at 80 and having to idle to avoid over-running traffic in front of me.
 
The sales guy started out with that shallow, phony demeanor that I absolutely detest, then threw me $1000 off MSRP and $21,500 for my '03 SVT Cobra. I really wanted to get past that shallow connection I had so my wife and I lured them away from the numbers for awhile. We started talking about how business was going at the dealership, my wife asked about her family, we talked about hobbies and pasttimes, and even managed to joke and kid a little bit. Soon we had them offering another $1000 in a "hot button" discount. The new car price was getting close but I told her she really had to sharpen her pencil on the trade because a dealer down the street had offered me substantially more (not a bluff). She asked me where she needed to be but, in a nice way, I stayed with "more than that". Edmunds valued my trade at $22,100 (22,150 miles in "clean" condition) and the offer from the other dealer was $22,500 with no firm number on the GTO. She came back with $22,800 and offered me the 1.9% for 36 months on the difference (which I didn't think I could get because of the $1000 cash allowance). The car is sitting in my garage this morning.
 
Final Deal:
MSRP: $34,295
Dealer Discount: ($1,000)
Cash Allowance: ($1,000)
My Price: $32,295
 
Trade-In Allowance: $22,800
 
Difference + Tax + Doc Fee + Title = $10,335 1.9% = $295.81/mo for 3 years
 
I know it may not be the absolute best deal, but I drove away feeling like I got a fair deal and the salesperson made a little money too.
 
What do you folks think?

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